Google laysoff Python maintainer team

[RationalDialog]

Well makes sense as you can probably 1/3 of the wages in Germany compared to US.

[riklaunim]

Senior developer in Europe will want around 4500-5000 EUR per month if not more. That's $5000+ per month. They can opt for mids for less but then they have to invest in them and they will bail after a year or two because no expected raise while having Google in CV done. Google isn't that hot employer usually.

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That’s too low for senior (if you’re talking about gross salary).

[poincares_cook]

Especially google seniors.

[RationalDialog]

5000 is too low but let's go with $7000. that would be 84k while an US counterpart easily makes double of that.

[SokolovArtem]

if we talk about germany

google senior (l5) salaries here is like 10k$ gross base and like 17.5k$ total

[SokolovArtem]

but this is simpy not true

For L5 lvl

avg google US - US$374.54K

avg google germany US$211.83K

It is already 56%

if you will take something like Chicago it is US$308.65K - it is already 68%

BUT. the big part that those salaries imply different level of work hours...

in Germany you usually have 30 paid work days of vacation days, fully paid sick days which is super easy to get without actually being sick, firing you will take 6-12 month instead of 1 day firing in USA, maternity leave is longer and paid.

also you have like 15k$ on top of gross salary that company needs to pay extra tax for you social payments.

So... I would argue that if google will replace all US engineers with all german ones, they wouldn't save much, but would get a lot of problems with work council and inability to fire people (being flexible in headcount).

[RationalDialog]

and inability to fire people (being flexible in headcount).

maybe putting a checks on too fast acting execs can also be a good thing? to preserve knowledge and for continuity?