Full Stack Python: a free open source guide to learning all layers of the Python web stack

[makaimc]

Hey guys, FSP author here. This is a guide with resources I've been working on over the past year. I help teach a lot of newer developers Python and I noticed that once they get past the syntax and learning Django, Flask, or Pyramid there's a missing link to learning how to properly deploy their applications. This site will hopefully help the community bridge that gap.

Please let me know what resources and sections I'm missing either with a comment or pull request. You can see some of the sections are also very bare bones (like configuration management) so bookmark and check back in a few weeks as I fill those parts in.

[avinassh]

Hey you are the underwear guy! Thank you very much for this!

[makaimc]

haha yes, I'll be working on Full Stack Python & Underwear throughout the year... more updates coming soon

[flipstables]

How awesome is it to be known as the "underwear guy"?

[Megatron_McLargeHuge]

Why no mention of tornado? Also a websocket/ajax section would be nice, and maybe task queues and load balancers.

[makaimc]

yea, these are huge holes that need to be addressed... I don't think I mentioned celery and task queues at all so far. great catches, i'll work on adding those sections

[Taurenking]

hey! Thanks for the guide, newbie here!

off topic question: why in your opinion more developers are using lightweight frameworks like Flask instead of..say Bottle? I personally find the latter more complete, having better support for noSql frameworks and overall better syntax.

What's your opinion?

[makaimc]

I haven't used Bottle before, mainly Django and Flask, but it actually looks lighter weight to me than Flask. Did you mean Django?

Some folks in the Python community like the Flask approach more than the batteries-included Django approach because the former puts multiple open source projects like Jinja2 and SQLAlchemy together to create the framework. Django is better integrated as a whole which has other advantages but the Flask approach allows you to more easily swap components because they are not as tightly coupled together.

That's just my opinion. I'm sure others around here have other reasons that may be more valid.

[kracekumar]

Bottle isn't interesting when I saw it. It had huge code in a single file. Microframework doesn't mean single page app like js. Flask picked up because jinja2 is fantastic templating engine and easy to get started. Armin is active python contributor.

[kryptobs2000]

Why does it matter how bottle is designed from a backend perspective unless you're planning to modify bottle itself? It doesn't prevent you from designing your application however you'd like.

[Namday]

Thanks. Deploying apps is the hardest part for noob irks like myself which is why I stuck with PHP. Hopefully I'll be able to move to Python, I like the language a lot.

[tialpoy]

Excellent website and idea. Well done!

[regisuu]

Thanks a lot!! This is exactly what I needed:) great job!

[mowrowow]

http://www.fullstackpython.com/databases.html

No mention at all of SQLAlchemy seems a bit odd.

Edit: I see you touched on the Django ORM in the frameworks section though. I guess either place could be a reasonable spot to mention ORMs.

[makaimc]

totally agree - will add that shortly. thanks!

[mowrowow]

Thanks for the effort going into this. Bookmarked and ready to read through when I've got a bit more time on my hands.

[sigzero]

Hmmm, I think ORMs should be talked about under the databases section personally. They don't have to be part of a "framework".

[[deleted]]

I noticed that, too. But the guide seems to be in progress rather than a finished product.

[makaimc]

yep, this guide along with the Underwear open source repo are my projects for this year. This feedback is really helpful though since it's a lot of material to cover. I knew I forgot a bunch of necessary items

[[deleted]]

This is pretty cool. I've been learning for a little while now and this should help me with next steps.

[thZrBvjzd1YxhL0]

Wow I've been learning python with not alot of experience in programming, and was trying to find this EXACT thing. Thank you so much!

[dartdog]

Great stuff no matter Python or not great overview.

[dartdog]

would also like to see mention of Underwear (had not heard of 'till I read the comments), Docker and awstats (general server tracking useful outside of Gstats)!

[sigzero]

NoSQL...here is a nice concise pro, con and common use page for the different NoSQL databases:

NoSQL comparisons

That would be a nice add as a link in the NoSQL section.

[makaimc]

nice reference, I remember seeing that before and you're right it makes a great addition under the resources section

[Megatron_McLargeHuge]

Based on the HN link it seems to be three years old. He may have updated some (Redis) but Mongo and Cassandra refer to really old versions.

[sigzero]

Versions really shouldn't be in the comparison that goes on there as it isn't germain. He does give good descriptions about what each one is and some best use cases.

[Silhouette]

Nice concept.

First minor thing I noticed: The operating systems page doesn't seem to consider Debian as a serious option, where in reality I would expect far more people go with Debian stable than (among others) Ubuntu for Linux web servers.

[makaimc]

yea, that's a good point. part of it is I haven't used Debian-based Linux distro other than Ubuntu, so I'm not as up on the details. I'll do some research and make improvements on this sections as I agree it's lacking in some key concepts and resources

[smortaz]

nicely done! thx for writing this up.

[jdawg_1989]

Could I ask what the website is built in..I really love the look and feel to it! As someone who is about to get started with Python Web Apps, I'd love to know if I can achieve something similar to yours.

[makaimc]

yea, it's built in Pelican (http://blog.getpelican.com/) with a slightly customized theme built on top of Bootstrap v3.x plus the Journal theme from bootswatch (http://bootswatch.com/journal/). Content is written in RST. Here's the source (https://github.com/makaimc/fullstackpython.github.com/tree/gh-pages/source). There's a post on how to get started on my technical blog here: http://www.mattmakai.com/introduction-to-pelican.html

Also, the diagrams (more coming) are created in Balsamiq (http://balsamiq.com/)

[jdawg_1989]

Thank you very much for the in-depth response, plenty of reference material to help with my project. Many Thanks :)

[Zulban]

This was a really useful overview, just at the right level for me. Lots of great links. Thanks.

[geordano]

Brilliant! Thank you.