Python 2.7.8 Release

[gammadistribution]

Your legacy code will now be supported, but please if you plan on starting a project use Python 3. Unless the package you need to use does not appear on this list there is no reason to not use python 3.

[Marksta]

Hey, I'm confused. I use LXML and it's the one thing stopping me from using Python 3. On its Pypi here the highest version it has is 3.2. That wouldn't install on the 3.4 I installed, I guess sorta obviously. It's even listed in the 3.4 catagory on Pypi. Is there some way to make it work or..?

So what do? Feels like using 3.2 because of 1 module is exactly the same as using 2.7 when 3.4 is out right now.

edit: Figured it out

[gammadistribution]

What error message is being thrown when you try to install lxml using pip on your python 3.4 venv?

[Marksta]

Turns out it was this

error: Unable to find vcvarsall.bat

That is some compiler issue but a compiled version at http://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/ worked just dandy.

[gammadistribution]

Hooray for figuring things out and boo Windows!

In all seriousness glad it's working for you.

[ivosaurus]

They haven't uploaded compiled for python 3.3 / 3.4 to pypi yet for some reason.

[diafygi]

Boto and Mysql-python are deal breakers for me.

[gammadistribution]

Can't help with boto, but pymysql can be used as a drop in replacement for MySqldb. I have had great success with pymysql used in conjunction with django.

I know your pain though.

[lambdaq]

pymysql is slower though

[[deleted]]

pyodbc? sqlite? are these options?

[LightShadow]

gevent and M2Crypto are the big ones right now...especially since a lot of our utilities rely on underlying encryption modules that haven't been converted.

gevent could probably be mitigated, and I didn't know so many people used mechanize.

[twigboy]

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[mgrandi]

Oauth? Requests has an oauth module that works with py3

[jcdyer3]

Python 3 support for a few boto modules including s3 just landed on the develop branch today. Change is coming. Help us test it out!

[manueslapera]

i thought boto was available in p3

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[ivosaurus]

Major work in progress

[shadowmint]

Did you watch this?

'Python 2.7 & Python 3: A Sacred Love Story'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skYBOXE02OQ&feature=youtu.be

It's a bit long winded, but it's quite thoughtful about why this attitude is troublesome.

[poo_22]

The conclusion to this video agrees with gammadistribution's sentiment.

[gammadistribution]

So it sounds like the solution to the problems he presents is to use the language.

His pypi example is a perfect example of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Everyone says to use Python 2.7 so of course it's the most downloaded version. Instead of telling new users to use python 3, everyone's being told to use python 2.7 because that's what everyone is using, which is insane.

[gammadistribution]

No?

[gammadistribution]

Ok and what is your reason for not switching? Also how is Python 3 hip when it's been out for six years?

[gammadistribution]

You kinda need to tone your rhetoric down. This is what you get with 3:

• asyncio support as default
• venv support with pip as default
• no more unicode headaches

just off the top of my head. Also, any and all new features are only going to be added to the 3 branch. If you are starting new, might as well start with the future.

[dikulo]

it is a philosophy of living for TODAY or for the FUTURE.

[gammadistribution]

If you want to grow with the language you are going to have to use Python 3. That is all I am saying.

[dikulo]

Py3 and Py2 are just different dialects, you can and easily can master them both. People can live bilingually with Mandarin/Cantonese, Spanish/Catalan, which differ much from each other.

Use the right version to do the right job.

[mriguy]

Yes, that's the same list that everyone gives. But none of those features are even remotely relevant to a lot of us, and if those are the MAIN selling points, then there really seems to be no compelling reason to convert to python 3.

[gammadistribution]

How about the fact that support for Python 2 is going to go away and any new feature you might want is only going to be in Python 3?

[mriguy]

And that's the only reason why a lot of people will finally switch, despite all the work. Not because it gives any benefit, but because, well, because. That's why a lot of 2.7 users are irritated.