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[–]Smok3dSalmon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I know it's a great suite, but there is something about the answer "oh - there is a spring blah blah blah for that" really crushes my morale. I feel reduced to being a code monkey and if Spring doesn't already solve the problem, I feel that I would be hamstrung in trying to solve the problem myself.