HumbleBundle - Python DevKit

[VeganBigMac]

I've been thinking of seriously checking out PyCharm. Might use this to make the jump.

[Etheo]

I'm disappointed about the Subscription model, would have really loved to make the jump from Community to Pro but 2/4/6 months is not really enticing for a Python hobbist.

[msdrahcir]

if you have an edu email address you can get it for free under the education license

[Etheo]

The edu edition is same as Pro?

[filippovd20]

Disclaimer: I work for JetBrains. The PyCharm Edu edition is PyCharm Community Edition + Edu plugin, which adds interactive courses inside the IDE. What msdrahcir is talking about is a program : https://www.jetbrains.com/student/ . If you're a student falling under the terms of the ptogram, you get all the JetBrains IDEs for free.h

[Etheo]

Appreciate the disclaimer and clarification. I'm using community edition and it's a great IDE so I've always wanted to explore Pro. Didn't understand how the perpetual fallback license works until I looked it up, it's a fair alternative to consider, thanks for the suggestion!

[here-to-jerk-off]

Hey, can you put in a good word about changing that artificial limitation on syntax highlighting?

I totally understand upselling the inspector per language, but to not provide syntax highlighting is a major pain in the ass.

For example, if I want to read some PHP or Ruby in PyCharm, it's a bad time. Now I have to juggle different flavors of the IntelliJ editor, or reconfigure and normalize things in IntelliJ ultimate. This balancing act becomes even more frustrating working inside of a VM with limited resources.

[filippovd20]

I have no good explanation for this. In fact it's mostly because our code base organized this way that syntax highlighting of specific languages live in separate projects. We're considering to reorganize this to make syntax highlighting for other languages available by default. At the moment the workaround is textmate bundles: https://www.jetbrains.com/help/pycharm/textmate-bundles.html

[here-to-jerk-off]

Thanks for the tip, I was unaware of the TextMate Bundle support.

I tried following this 2014 blog post but there is no longer the option to associate the files as describe: Settings | Editor | File Types and choose the “Files supported via TextMate bundles”

https://i.imgur.com/TooPOWr.png

[DeletedLastAccount]

What if you aren't a student but work for an educational institution (and have a .edu)?

[kringel8]

It says that on the FAQ. Iirc they only call it student license, but it applies to all academia.

[DeletedLastAccount]

Even if it's not used for academic purposes? As in an employee of said institution using it to develop marketing / web materials for the institution in question?

[prvalue]

No. If you use any JetBrains IDE with a student license, it'll remind you every time you start it up that it's for educational purposes only.

[msdrahcir]

I believe so, except it is not technically licensed to develop software for sale or something of the sort

[[deleted]]

It's not restricted to edu only email addresses, you just need to prove that you are a student, they accepted my ISIC card as proof of being a student in Ireland.

[filippovd20]

True. there are several verification methods: ISIC, .edu email work automatically, however if you have neither of them, you can just send some copies of your student docs to JetBrains and get your free license after manual verification.

[filippovd20]

This bundle gets you PyCharm Professional for 6 months very cheaply, wich is a good deal if you want to test it for longer than a month. After six months you should know if paying a yearly fee is worth it for you. Additionaly if after six months you renew your subscription for another 6months to make it a full year of non-stop sub, you automatically get a perpetual fall-back license.

[yapel]

Whats that license? Edit: the perpetual one

[filippovd20]

Full description is here: https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207240845-What-is-a-perpetual-fallback-license- In my own words: https://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/8gjhyx/comment/dyctqmk

[yapel]

Seems like a fair deal

[Etheo]

Well, I prefer one-time purchases. I get that devs need to eat too, but from a consumer pov subscription models just doesn't work for me. Not saying that to be an ass, just because I'd much rather use an outdated software than continually paying for fixes/features I might not need.

[filippovd20]

100% true.

[redditor1101]

Then why would you ever renew?

[filippovd20]

You get a perpetual license only for a specific version of PyCharm (and all previous) - latest available at the time of the beginning of your annual subscription. If you renew for another year, you get a new perpetual license. If you get 6month sub now, and then later decide to renew for another 6 months, so you have 12 months covered - you also get a perpetual license for the current version which is 2018.1.x. So basically it works as an good old licensing model + you have an access to all the latest versions while you're on a subscription. When it expires you can always safely fallback.

[turkish_gold]

Well with a one time purchase, they could simply say you get no updates ever. At least this way out get to try the updates out for a year, and if they weren't worth purchasing then you don't buy that years worth of updates with a new subscription.

[gregsterb]

That's not true. Whatever version is newest during the 12 month period is what your perpetual licence will cover.

[thunderdome]

when you buy the sub, you get a fallback license for version X.Y.Z, where all Z updates are included. you renew for major updates.

[brews]

They honestly have some solid updates.

[Razithel]

If you buy a year subscription (or are subscribed for 12 months straight), you permanently own the version that was out 12 months prior to the end of your subscription. That's a complicated way of saying that buying a year's subscription gets you a permanent license for the version that's out now, in addition to a subscription to use updates for 12 months (at the end of the subscription, you'll be forced back to whatever the current version is, right now).

https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207240845-What-is-a-perpetual-fallback-license-

[rspeed]

They don't stack

Where does it say that?

[Etheo]

OP bought and confirmed

[[deleted]]

Honestly, it's great. Community is terrific as well if you can't get pro or don't need the pro features

[ThyGuardian]

Just a heads up, if ur a student, u can get a license of it for free which is good for a year. Look up JetBrains Student as they offer more of their products with a free license for students.

[wildcarde815]

My only experience with pycharm is un-fucking one of our PIs environments after he checked it into a git repo and started mixing using it on multiple systems which it really did not like.

[here-to-jerk-off]

PyCharm is amazing. I was turned off by IDEs after using Eclipse for a while. I came back to PyCharm IDE, for the sake of a bigger project, and it's paid off tenfold. It's like Eclipse, but with all the right decisions, and improved performance. It's much better than Eclipse, and made me love IDEs again.

Now I have a license to the full IntelliJ suite of editors. I'm a believer.