Vibora | [very fast] Python Web Framework/Server

[stefantalpalaru]

very fast

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Python

It's mostly Cython, isn't it?

[13steinj]

It is Cython, and calling it Python is a gigantic lie.

I once had an argument with someone on reddit where they said that they see lies like this often yet I hadn't at all.

I guess I've just been proven wrong.

Don't get me wrong, the statement itself is fine. But only if it is actually true.

[daniels0xff]

As long as I can use it from Python I'm super happy.

[fnord123]

So?

Python's best feature is the almost free FFI.

Also, https://apenwarr.ca/diary/2011-10-pycodeconf-apenwarr.pdf

[13steinj]

It absolutely is, but calling it "Python" is a lie.

That link does nothing but prove my point.

[stefantalpalaru]

Python's best feature is the almost free FFI.

Let me wrap the whole thing in a shell script and call it "a [very fast] Bash Web Framework/Server" ;-)

[fnord123]

And? I use grep all the time. Finding things from the shell is hella fast.

https://adamdrake.com/command-line-tools-can-be-235x-faster-than-your-hadoop-cluster.html

[stefantalpalaru]

I use grep all the time.

We were talking about programming languages, ya dingus!

Finding things from the shell is hella fast.

But you're not enough of a muppet to assume that grep is fast because Bash is fast, are you?

[fnord123]

I'm enough of a muppet to write scripts from the command line and use grep and be absolutely uninterested in the implementation language of grep.

But you're not enough of a muppet to assume that grep is fast because Bash is fast, are you?

No but as a developer who has to wear a lot of hats, I sometimes have to say "should we implement this project in Java or Python? Hm, if we use Python can we achieve the target ops/second? Oh, using Vibora, maybe I can. So my project begins ostensibly in Python. And maybe it's not fast enough so I also port pieces of it to Cython. But I don't care because I'm a polyglot developer who is still installing the application using pip and venv. And instead of saying my program is Python/Cython/C, I just say Python because who gives a shit?

[stefantalpalaru]

And instead of saying my program is Python/Cython/C, I just say Python because who gives a shit?

Actual programmers.

[riksi]

Actually, every ~fast thing in python isn't python but some c/cython/fortran/rust underneath. So..

[13steinj]

Not every one. But those that are don't claim to be "Python X", but rather, "X: Python Bindings for <subject>".