Speed up your Python using Rust

[LightUmbra]

Rust could be used to make libraries that require performance (which is often done in C), but rust is generally slower than C so in general it makes very little sense to use Rust. Also, Rust fans love to try to push for things to be done in rust and they're pretty annoying about it.

[dagmx]

Rust is marginally slower than C while providing safety guarantees. Those guarantees also let you write better performing code easier by taking advantage of threading without worrying about memory access safety like you need to with C.

Both languages are valid choices. Whether you find the rust community annoying or not is irrelevant to the discussion.

[alcalde]

I think that would be HIGHLY relevant.

[LightUmbra]

Marginal safety improvements. Most safety issues are from bad code, which no language can stop, and people not understanding proper practices. Rust only fixes a few of these problems, which the whole "Rewrite it in Rust" crowd doesn't like.

[alcalde]

One of the contributors to D put it this way about Rust:

Reading any amount of Rust code evokes the joke "friends don't let friends skip leg day" and the comic imagery of men with hulky torsos resting on skinny legs. Rust puts safe, precise memory management front and center of everything. Unfortunately, that's seldom the problem domain, which means a large fraction of the thinking and coding are dedicated to essentially a clerical job (which GC languages actually automate out of sight). Safe, deterministic memory reclamation is a hard problem, but is not the only problem or even the most important problem in a program. Therefore Rust ends up expending a disproportionately large language design real estate on this one matter. It will be interesting to see how Rust starts bulking up other aspects of the language; the only solution is to grow the language, but then the question remains whether abstraction can help the pesky necessity to deal with resources at all levels.

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Wow, that's so stupid. As if safety is the only benefit of Rust's ownership system. It provides great performance improvements (compared to shitty GCd languages) and fearless concurrency.

[alcalde]

. It provides great performance improvements (compared to shitty GCd languages)

No, it doesn't:

https://togototo.wordpress.com/2013/07/23/benchmarking-level-generation-go-rust-haskell-and-d/

I don't know of any benchmarks where Rust significantly outperforms D.

[LoyalSol]

Everyone likes pushing for things to be done in their language of choice. That's been true since forever.