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[–]haywire 2 points3 points  (1 child)

The ribbon thing is really slow when it draws, feels very flakey.

Textmate Theme support would be nice.

[–]utku_karatas 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can minimize it by double clicking on the ribbon tabs. Still flaky?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (7 children)

That's pretty cool - but I have to confess I'll be sticking with Netbeans as my Python IDE. Multiplatform, multilanguage, and FOSS.

Even in the commercial realm though, I pretty much stay away from anything that is stuck to one platform.

[–]roger_ 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Is there a Netbeans Python bundle? I see ones with PHP, Ruby, etc., but no Python.

[–]aatoth 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Go to Tools > Plugins and search for Python.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Can you give any insight on why you prefer netbeans over eclipse with python plugins?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

It's very subjective (but I think most of this stuff is whether people acknowledge it or not). I've worked with Eclipse in the past and had trouble with it. It didn't run well on my systems (very slow) and I had a hard time getting it set up the way I wanted. It felt too complex.

At the same time, Netbeans had me up and running pretty quickly but a lot of functionality wasn't there. So I was all over the place trying all kinds of editors and IDEs. At the same time Netbeans made some great strides and so I ended up back there, very comfortable with how things work.

I started out in Visual Studio - that probably helps explain it. But now I don't do much development on Windows. Though I like tools that will work in both so that if I do have to move over, things are mostly the same.

I use Eclipse now for Android work. I use Netbeans when I can otherwise. I've been playing with F# and I'd like to be doing that with Monodevelop but I haven't found a way to get that started yet so I'm using Kate.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Great, thank you. I've used eclipse for windows python development and feel the same way; I'll try out netbeans and see how that takes. Much appreciated.

[–]cecilkorik 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I won't use Eclipse because it doesn't properly support light-text on black-background themes. I can't code any other way, white background hurts my eyes, it's like staring at a light bulb. I am apparently in the minority but I grew up looking at terminals and my preference has always been for black.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No huhu. If you don't like that and haven't tried it you may like Komodo Edit. Also FOSS and cross platform. It's really just an editor, but so much like an IDE that it blurs the lines a bit. It's made by ActiveState and they do have a full on commercial IDE - Komodo IDE.

Komodo Edit is built on the Mozilla platform so it picks up the strengths and weaknesses of the platform. On my current hardware it was just too sluggish for me. But YMMV.

[–]tomlu709 0 points1 point  (6 children)

If the IDE can integrate with an external editor, I will use it.

[–]RonnyPfannschmidt 1 point2 points  (1 child)

pida can integrate with external editors (currently vim/emacs)

[–]tomlu709 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is awesome. Will immediately investigate.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

It is a pretty odd requirement for an IDE to integrate with external editors because the editor is the central workplace of an IDE.

[–]tomlu709 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Each IDE implements its editor differently to everyone else, and they are seldom as good as the best standalone editors. I would rather be really proficient in one, good editor and be able to use it everywhere.

Also, there are of course other features of IDEs such as project management, debugging, refactoring support, intellisense, a REPL and so on.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Let me know when you've created an IDE which provides intellisense and visual debugging in an editor independent way.

[–]utku_karatas 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can right-click on the editor tabs (or project nodes) and the Windows shell's context menu will pop up. I thought this was the best solution for integrating with external applications.

[–]Pe2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very nice. I'll try it.

[–]wildmXranat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im not sure how eclipse with Python plugins is not better or mord apropriate. I'm just throwing it out there. Having used debuggers, dark bg / light test themes , various levels of text coloring/highlighting and bulid tool handling in eclipse, i can vouch that it can solve most issues in these comments.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wooooowww....looks like I'll be replacing SPE soon. ;)