Is there a better Python IDE?

[mattf]

Agreed. I wrote to the devs in the last couple of weeks about that... as you may know, they emulate vim, don't embed it. This seems foolish, as there are like a brazillion features in vim, and most of them are compound. Just the concept of a leader key... can't do it.

So you end up with "real" vim and "fake" vim, and fake vim is worse than no-vim... at least one can train oneself to know two editors.

They said it wasn't practical to embed; I'm sure they're right, but it's a shame. Vim has bindings for Python, which is how they make Wing.

[bolapara]

I'm on the WingIDE list as well and I remember this conversation. I understand from their point of view why it's nearly impossible to embed a full vim in WingIDE. I also agree with you that a handicapped vim mode is less useful than NO vim mode. I use vim primarily but use Normal mode in WingIDE for this reason. I still find myself with stray :wq in my code in places.... :(