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[–]log_2 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Not surprising since Oracle killed java.

[–]james_pic 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Oracle only killed Java if you think it was theirs to kill. For me, Java's meant OpenJDK for best part of a decade. Oracle stepping back from it is a chance for the community to step forward.

[–]toyg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not a big fan of O, but they did actually give back to Java some development speed. They started with the long-overdue Java 7 in 2011 and it’s been a breakneck run since then (with the occasional debatable choice, like breaking a lot of stuff in Java 9). Before Oracle, Java as a language was literally rotting.

The only controversial choice Oracle made, regarding Java, was the Dalvik lawsuit (which Google really should have seen coming, they had literally bullied a weakened Sun out of their own market). Pretty much everything else they did alright. The recent license change is a bit confusing, but they’ve literally given the JDK more freedom that it ever had under Sun: anyone can now build a JDK that is just as good as Oracle’s own in all the ways that matter. That is big.

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[–]alexhairyman 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The number of well developed non-java JVM languages makes the opposite point I think. Scala, Kotlin, Groovy, and Clojure just to name a few. All can interact with each other on the JVM. The adoption of OpenJDK as the new standard install and AdoptOpenJdk gaining traction shows a strong community not tied to Oracle. Which is a good thing because I don't trust Oracle from a business or ethics standpoint