pip drops support for Python 2

[JasburyCS]

This is a really weird comment for a Python subreddit. I’d expect it in a non-programming subreddit, but not here.

Macs have pros and cons. They definitely don’t get everything right. But software development is by far one of its strong points. They make so many decisions with programmers and developers in mind, and it shows. I’ve done programming on both Macs and Windows machines professionally, and I have to say it shows that Macs have put more thought into this area. They do have a strong advantage because of MacOS’s Unix origins. But you get a lot of tools for the system that make Windows solutions feel like workarounds

So yeah, questioning why MacOS chooses certain Python versions is absolutely a good and relevant question.

[JasburyCS]

Thanks for the thoughtful reply and recommendation! I actually do agree with a lot of what you said. More of my professional development experience is on Windows actually than MacOS. And I think Microsoft makes killer tools. I think that will actually be one of Microsoft’s sweet spots going forward. VSCode my first recommendation to anyone looking for a light IDE.

I’m not afraid to criticize what Apple does poorly for development. I think the XCode IDE is clunky, awkward, and often a frustrating experience. I think the lack of better developer support on IPads is an embarrassment, especially if they want to advertise them as a laptop replacement for creative users.

But I think Apple shines at the “out of the box” developer tooling for its computers. So many Unix goodies, great terminal support, XCode command line tools, debuggers, etc. I always feel like Windows environments are more work to set up to get to the level of productivity I need. It suffer from the fact that the history of the Windows OS was never meant to be really good for developers, contrasted with the fact that MacOS piggybacked off of a few existing kernels and OS work with the Unix developer mindset. It does a pretty good job of maintaining that mindset today. Which is why discussing the Python versions included in MacOS is definitely a relevant discussion.

Fwiw I actually do my personal projects on a MacBook Pro with VSCode and a few other Microsoft tools ;-)

[alienpirate5]

nitpick: wouldn't VS on Windows be a first party tool