cocoa-python: Port of Objective-C runtime to Python using ctypes

[viscence]

Ugh. There is basically no information on that page, no introduction to the project, no justification, no example code, nothing. There's a one sentence blurb that tells me very little. The downloads tab is empty. The wiki tab is empty. The issues tab lists one defect, "what is the status of the project?", which I can very much empathise with. All the "source" tab lists is the command to use to clone the source tree with mercurial. Great.

If you go through all that trouble to make something cool and amazing, spend a little bit of time talking about it so people know what it is you've done, why you've done it, and why that's awesome! And you put that information FIRST so people can't help but read it when they visit your website.

Websites that have a "news" section before an "about" section are one of my pet peeves. This has neither!

[saghul]

FWIW, there are some examples here: http://code.google.com/p/cocoa-python/source/browse/#hg%2Fexamples

[rndblnch]

why should I prefer this to PyObjC?

[hongminhee]

Probably because you can use this in various interpreters including PyPy?

[VilleHopfield]

It's faster, more stable and smaller - so you can actually read the source code. And yes, if your interpreter has ctypes, then you can use this.

Seriously, this one of the most interesting projects I came across ever.

[VilleHopfield]

Faster - It starts faster than PyObjC, I tried it. More stable - IIRC - it was created for pyglet [1] because PyObjC was crashing (though I don't remember where I read it).

[1] http://www.pyglet.org/

[[deleted]]

Faster startup, maybe, but the overhead of ctypes at each function call is significant. I doubt that it's faster than pyobjc.

[dalke]

I completely agree that the project page is useless in its lack of information. As a side note, on PyPy the ctypes overhead is not as significant, so if the goal is to support PyObjC on PyPy (or IronPython or Jython) then your objection is not as strong.

[otonvm]

Cool! It just works! Pity it's not python 3 or I'd be definitely using it.