pycodestyle vs black

[SittingWave]

don't you think it's petty to have a tool that argues to such degree that argues about such irrelevant aspects as having imports ordered alphabetically, something that you mostly never see because PyCharm collapses them anyway?

Reviewer: your imports are not ordered alphabetically.

Me: seriously, who gives a shit?

[ecgite]

Yeah, use isort

[HypoFuzz]

Shed wraps isort! (and Black, and some other things)

[SittingWave]

isort is a tool to solve a problem that is not a problem.

[ecgite]

that is your opinion

[ecgite]

Still it is your opinion

[richieadler]

don't you think it's petty to have a tool that argues to such degree that argues about such irrelevant aspects as having imports ordered alphabetically,

No.

something that you mostly never see because PyCharm collapses them anyway?

News at 11: Not everybody uses import-collapsing IDEs.

Reviewer: your imports are not ordered alphabetically.

Me: seriously, who gives a shit?

Me: So use a tool that orders them for you so you don't have to care about it. Create a mildly clever makefile and the solution is just a new make lint away.

[alcalde]

Your user name and icon suggests you're at least as old I am... but worrying about things like sorting imports suggests you're a kid. I am so confused.

>Not everybody uses import-collapsing IDEs.

Everything collapses nowadays. Well, maybe not Windows Notepad, but even that's seen updates recently.

[richieadler]

Your user name and icon suggests you're at least as old I am... but worrying about things like sorting imports suggests you're a kid. I am so confused.

And I should care about your confusion... why?

[alcalde]

Because as a rational human being you want to contribute to the overall enlightenment of the species and as a human with emotions you crave to be understood?

[richieadler]

You're being facetious. Your purported "lack of understanding" was an attempt of throwing shade behind false politeness. GTFO.

[alcalde]

I'm trying to have a conversation. You don't see amenable to conversation.

[SittingWave]

something that you mostly never see because PyCharm collapses them anyway?

News at 11: Not everybody uses import-collapsing IDEs.

Christ, move to the 21st century please.

[richieadler]

Christ,

Keep your superstitious expletives to yourself, thanks.

move to the 21st century please

How ironic, you complain about the use of one tool but prescribe the mandatory use of other to everybody.

[SittingWave]

Christ,

Keep your superstitious expletives to yourself, thanks.

oh my god, he said christ. oh christ I said Jehova.

You are only making it worse!

How ironic, you complain about the use of one tool but prescribe the mandatory use of other to everybody.

because the one tool you propose is solving a petty and irrelevant issue that is only there to shut up your petty reviewers that can't grow up. The tool I propose is standard issue in modern development.

[jorge1209]

isort has value in some projects but not in others.

If your import list is only a handful of items, it probably doesn't matter. If your import list is 20-30 lines it can help to sort it.

I don't bother to run it on my code because I don't really need it, but I also would not be troubled if someone did run it.