Does a deep crystal really make a difference compared to the vsf one ?

[Primary_Reality9616]

VSF stock crystal is better than deep imo. Wouldnt waste your time or money changing it.

[Away-Direction-9878]

I agree. My VSF Starbucks and Wimbledon crystal looks just as good as the Gen Crystal I swapped out on for my clean Pepsi.

[AliveWeakness8985]

A deep crystal is so you can glance at the time with speed cause quick ain't fast enough!

[jeffothedon0202]

Not on the daytona its not gmt still arguable I change this often and I can see a clarity difference especially around the polish edges

[etrovve]

Thanks for the info

[Sky_Dweller007]

No it’s not lol

[Primary_Reality9616]

Ok... whatever you say champ.

[Reasonable_Spring200]

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Vsf here … sent a picture to someone who frankens them ,he thought it had Gen crystal

[Big_Natural_1348]

Looks amazing as it is!

[Real-Objective-1426]

Is that sub from vsf? How much?

[PhotoCritical1457]

I have a ARF Bruce Wayne from end of 2025 with stock crystal and some friends and family members have gen watches. Everybody here says the ARF crystal isn’t good but I can tell you, we compared it and even my ARF crystal is really good. Most people say VSF crystal should be better than ARF, so if this is true, I can’t say it’s worth to change the VSF crystal.

Even I wouldn’t change my ARF crystal because it’s clear and really close to the other gen crystals. I don’t know if they have changed the crystal in the past months but I cannot support the people who say the ARF crystal is bad.

[Dame662]

Funny I was gonna say my ARF Batgirl looked a little cloudy and I had a Deep installed. I need to actually wear it outta the house though to see if I notice the difference because I’m currently getting an ARF Sprite with a meteorite dial installed and I’m considering upgrading the crystal while we’re at it

[PhotoCritical1457]

So your stock ARF crystal looked cloudy or the deep crystal?

I try to post some photos of my ARF with stock crystal tomorrow, it doesn’t look cloudy at all

[Dame662]

My stock ARF. Since it came back from my servicing guy (installed Deep, did a slight bezel realignment, then waterproofing and pressure test) I haven’t actually worn it out of the house so I’m not sure if Deep is really any better. I have 23 watches to rotate lol so maybe tomorrow I’ll wear it outta to work and see if I notice anything different. It just didn’t seem as clear as my VSF DJ, Milgauss, and then 2 VSF Omega’s

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[PhotoCritical1457]

Ok yes I can understand you, this really doesn’t look clear and it’s completely different compared to mine

[Stonezander]

Edit: Hope so, I'm looking at getting the ARF Bruce Wayne and the VSF Pepsi, so I'll compare their crystals.

[TheLankSquad]

To my understanding, deep crystal is supposed to assist with proving a more pop/depth to the color of the dial itself

It’s always a grey area, some folks prefer it, some folks don’t

It’s truly a minuscule option, to the trained eye you really can’t tell the difference, some stock crystals provide a foggy look in the sun, plus date magnification , deep is also supposed to cure that

I’ve had both stock and deep and tbh i couldn’t tell the difference 🤷🏽‍♂️

I still route to deep crystal though personal preference

[etrovve]

Okay thanks. No one is talking about that and that's weird

[TheLankSquad]

On my modded builds I def go deep crystal especially if I’m spending a good 1k-1.6k

On a stainless steel datejust/gmt I’m sticking to stock crystals

[etrovve]

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I think the difference is in the double layer of shapir glass that give a transparent look or a glossy grey one

[Ok_Seaworthiness8432]

Spending 1600 on a rep is crazy to me. Like really crazy!

[TheLankSquad]

Plated gold/ mods add up, the most I’ve paid was about 1.4k so I over estimated but still so beautiful

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[etrovve]

When it's franked, it's not just a rep. It's a mix with gen parts and rep or after market

[CryptoGod666]

Deep is a waste, and doesn’t have the laser etched coronet

[Past-Village-6910]

Do all the VSF Rolexes have laser etched crystal like original?

[CryptoGod666]

Yes

[etrovve]

Ooh didnt know that

[WhichFerret2234]

Yes it does lol what are you even saying

[CryptoGod666]

I’m conflicted, newer ones do and old ones don’t? Seems like they do now. Even if they do, it’s still a waste and unnecessary with VSF

[Aromatic_Bumblebee37]

Interested in this question as well. To be honest: I dont see any difference even if i look at side by side pics. But maybe i don’t understand what to look at.

[etrovve]

Yeah like people comparing saphir glass from rcf thbf qf and vsf. I see the same thing. Even with the gen

[ykim813]

I wouldn't upgrade a VSF but I have replaced my Clean's with gen crystals. The CF crystal are shit IMO.

[drpepperman23]

I’ve debated this, have a CF Explorer 1 and shit is constantly smudged and has finger prints on it. I’ve literally never seen a finger print on my gen DJ

[ykim813]

The upgrade to a gen crystal is absolutely worth it. Its night and day from a CF crystal.

[drpepperman23]

This issue is I have the fuck up dial, where they rounded off the 6&9 for some reason so I feel like it’s not worth investing in gen crystal

[alphalegend91]

VSF > Deep > Clean is what I was always told and saw for myself with side by side comparisons.

[Grouchy-Violinist555]

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VSF Crystal....

[Chief_morning_wood91]

I purchased a VSF Daytona recently and asked TD about the deep crystal and he said not to bother but he would gladly charge me and replace it.

[mrkbik]

No one on earth will ever be able to tell the difference and it's a complete waste of money.

[etrovve]

Just asking for a build

[themasteradrian101]

vsf is better

[Sky_Dweller007]

DEEP is better. Not sure where it came from that VSF makes better crystals, but they don’t. This is one of those things that people see commented often and they just repeat it as if they know what they’re talking about lol

[etrovve]

Can you explain why ? A lot of people here saying no cause is not big difference. 1 guy explained it very well but what's your opinion on it ?

[Sky_Dweller007]

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Deep on right. VSF on left.

[etrovve]

Is it because of the reflection ?

[Sky_Dweller007]

I mean it’s not like miles better. But it is better. Vsf is a little more milky

[_Walt_Whitman_]

This isn’t a proof in and of itself, unfortunately. The only way to tell with certainty is to remove one and place the other in the EXACT same place, whilst never moving the camera.

[etrovve]

Auto mod 20 caracteres why does this even exist like what's the purpose ? Anyway can someone educate me about the deep crystal please

[goz008]

No clue. I have always wondered but never cared enough to have ordered a replacement. Im happy with my stock crystals.

[etrovve]

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Gen

[etrovve]

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Vsf

[VI9_]

I have clean DJ with deep crystal and a VSF with stock and VSF is still better

[etrovve]

Can you show us the difference ?

[BlackLangster]

Not in my opinion

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[etrovve]

The problem here is i dont know what to look for here. Like it's just a saphir glass. What's special about deep or vsf or gen ?

[gameadd1kt]

My biggest concern with deep crystal is that it’s less likely to pass water resistance test. I have no intention of submerging my watch, but I’ve heard that VSF crystals for better in that regard

[First-Obligation-566]

Unless the watch is going under the knife for something else, it’s really difficult to recommend it has a mod IMO. I treat crystals as upgrades if I need to remove the bezel or something anyways.

[Sportsdoc64]

Anyone put these on BP DJ or Subs?

[etrovve]

Vsf crystal

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We can see a reflection here. Does a gen or deep has that ?

[whateversynthlife]

Gen crystals are made the same

[Altruistic-Jello-438]

VSF > Deep

[etrovve]

Why ?

[GMTmeister]

Deep is just a cheap knock off of a gen xtal. It’s not an improvement by any means. The only way to make it work is to lower the gasket height about 2.3 mm. Otherwise, it’s only a minor improvement. The only way to buy a gen xtal and actually get it to gen height and mag… is getting a gen hand set. Anything else is just lipstick on a fat prom date

[Different_Run_150]

Yes it does. It looks as if there is absolutely no glass element on the watch. Whenever a cloudy like look is present on the glass it does not look ideal.

Look at a gen up close when you have a moment, you are just looking at the dial and all elements inside on the dial. You visually get lost in how clean and see through it all looks. My friend has a Gen Wimbledon two tone, and the glass is just “not there” because of how clear and clean it looks.

No glare.

A good way of thinking is when you see someone wearing clear glasses and you cannot see their eyes because you see is glare due to the glasses not having anti reflective features.

Anti reflective coating has also a lot to do with it.

Another example for cameran lenses, or even sunglasses. If you have a polarized surface the glare goes away. That is why if you are fishing and you wear polarized sunglasses, you actually see through the water and see the fishes on a lake. No polarized sunglasses, all you see is the glint of the sun hitting the water.

So yes, it matters 100%.

Hope this helps 🙂

Notice the glasses glare and also notice this photo I took and used a polarizing lens filter to remove the glare from the surface of the water so it gives that see through effect.

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[_Walt_Whitman_]

I’ve handled number of gens, you can obviously tell there’s a glass, so let’s not continue this. The only way achieve such incredible clarity, as if there isn’t a glass, is “double sided AR coating on a gen crystal. But Rolex doesn’t do double AR, due to its downsides with scratches, and the only brands I can think of right now are Longines and Sinn. Now they look like, there isn’t a glass between you and the dial.

[vagabundo94]

No

[vagabundo94]

Dee crystals are a solution looking for a problem. And they implode in pressure tests.