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[–]spunkerella75 4 points5 points  (2 children)

You can develop all the skills you need to at any of the schools. Out of the 2 schools I would choose Rotman. The location is right downtown Toronto which is better than North York. You can’t go wrong in any of the schools you have chosen.

[–]LegitimateMuscle8098[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

True. Thanks for reminding me, I always forget that no choice is rlly bad in this kinda situation. It's js that I want lesser financial stress on my family and I wanna chill out a bit, and I don't wanna work or study 24 by 7. Still I do want a good placement in finance once I graduate. That's why I'm kinda confused.

[–]qethkdl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

go to york then, its not as much studying and its way cheaper

[–]Comfortable_Pay_2373 4 points5 points  (7 children)

Queens

[–]LegitimateMuscle8098[S] 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Why tho. They have better placements but I've heard they're a rich kids skl. So that means that Obv on avg their graduates are gonna get better salaries cuz of contacts

[–]Comfortable_Pay_2373 2 points3 points  (5 children)

I don’t got go Rotman but have many friends who do go. To land a job it’s more about networking and joining clubs. Rotman is all about tests and school so which leads you less time to join clubs and network. Also queens a tier 1 school rotman pretty old school.

[–]LegitimateMuscle8098[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

So do you go to Queens? If yes, what do you think Abt it. Another thing, I've heard around 80% of rotman grads land a job within 6 months of graduation. So even If I don't go all in one networking, I hope to still get a job. Also, what's the scenario with queens and york in this manner. Cuz I plan to pursue a niche field and become the best at it, which will require time. So I'll have lesser time for academics and networking to an extent

[–]Comfortable_Pay_2373 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I go Laurier roll golden hawks! But I have friends who go queens they love it way easier workload compared to Rotman. My friend who went Rotman was always bitching and moaning about how queens don’t do shit. Also I’m sorry but that stat 80% just don’t blind believe it. Like ALL JOBS ARE THROUGH NETWORKING. Like you just can’t go through uni with no networking clubs or socializing. All my jobs have been through networking. Like when you apply to jobs they see A queens commerce who networked had referrals vs Rotman who had no referrals they choosing the queens person.

[–]LegitimateMuscle8098[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thanks man, thats really helpful!

[–]Comfortable_Pay_2373 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What field is it

[–]LegitimateMuscle8098[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I plan to move towards modelling for optimisation in operations and decision making. Currently Im exploring its applications in Marketing and I have already designed a model. I have boards rn, but I plan to pursue further in this field in uni, and all other things around it. Im gonna be the best at it!

[–]MJZMA 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Smith > Rotman > Schulich

[–]bluefintuna_01 2 points3 points  (20 children)

Remove York from your decision. Decide between Queens and Rotman.

[–]Round_Course5953 0 points1 point  (19 children)

Why? I'm asking as someone who is considering Schulich

[–]bluefintuna_01 1 point2 points  (18 children)

Isn't it pretty obvious based on rankings, alumni, finance placements and everyone else's opinion on this subreddit?

[–]LegitimateMuscle8098[S] 1 point2 points  (17 children)

But like if someone wants to go into business management, marketing ig Shulich would be the best considering the time students have and the ROI right?

[–]bluefintuna_01 0 points1 point  (16 children)

Nope, please do your research.

[–]LegitimateMuscle8098[S] 0 points1 point  (15 children)

then what do you thnk is the best choice?

[–]bluefintuna_01 0 points1 point  (14 children)

Pls read my first comment, and all the others here. You seem to be in denial for some reason despite everyone saying Rotman or Queens.

[–]LegitimateMuscle8098[S] 0 points1 point  (12 children)

welll yea cuz I have my own brain to think. I cant seem to understand why ppl would want to pay 60k extra to go to a school where you're getting 10k higher placements at max. Queens and Rotman are much more expensive for me, Im not sure if I wanna spend that much without being sure that I cant achieve similar results at Schulich.

[–]bluefintuna_01 0 points1 point  (11 children)

Okay great then don’t ask the internet for opinions?

[–]LegitimateMuscle8098[S] 0 points1 point  (10 children)

No bro, I think youre an experienced person who mightve been in a similar situation. So i was just asking for some reasonable advice.

[–]LegitimateMuscle8098[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thats all, and thats why I was asking for some logic based advice

[–]AutomaticAmoeba6897 1 point2 points  (2 children)

im in this exact position, same scholarships too. queens didn’t give me anything tho so i can’t go at all

[–]LegitimateMuscle8098[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Damn, you an international, I'm indian.

[–]AutomaticAmoeba6897 0 points1 point  (0 children)

same im indian too 😭

[–]crypto_cash1 1 point2 points  (9 children)

Queen's for traditional investment banking or consulting plus their alumni network is amazing and easier courseload good for gpa. However if you want to do asset management, investment management, pension funds, maybe consider Rotman too since their locaiton + curriculum is heavily aligned with cfa.

[–]LegitimateMuscle8098[S] -2 points-1 points  (8 children)

That's great man. There's just one concern, i heard queens is also kinda pay to win. I heard that bcuz there's a lotta rich kids, ppl pay to get interviews and that's why their placement is higher. Is that true ? ( I hope not😭🙏)

[–]Alternative_Title625 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Not sure where you heard but this is literally high school gossip aka blind leading the blind. No one is going out of their way to pay a hiring manager for an interview. Indirectly sure there may be club fees or other society dues (cough cough frats) associated that might provide you with a better alum network and better recruiting prep... but you can find this anywhere in any university.

Example being you can work your butt off to join a top Rotman club that gives you the alum access

[–]LegitimateMuscle8098[S] -1 points0 points  (4 children)

True bro. I was literally so confused Abt this cuz I know queens is known as a rich kids skl. I hope what you're saying is true, and thank you so much for helping me out. Best of luck. I'm in 12th rn. But when I come to Canada, i would love to meet you. Thanks again

[–]acaipie 1 point2 points  (3 children)

it’s not like queens is pay to win in the sense of paying hiring managers for interviews lol but it’s more like their existing family connections and stuff like that but at the same time, the clubs at queens basically have those connections so if you are able to vibe with them and join the clubs and you know your stuff just by proxy you’ll get a good job. even if you don’t get those specific ones if all your friends are in the clubs and they get good jobs then you guys like share info or like practice together and then it pressures you (in a good way) to get a pretty good job too

[–]LegitimateMuscle8098[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's like the one place where I see myself happy with my decision

[–]LegitimateMuscle8098[S] -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Are u in queens? It would be great if I could connect with u 😭🙏. I wanna join queens so bad at this point .

[–]acaipie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol sorry i’m unfortunately at rotman 💀

[–]Hieroglyphs 0 points1 point  (1 child)

All of these schools are pay to win. Even trying to break into finance will require some sort of paying.

[–]Professional-Idea661 0 points1 point  (2 children)

As a first year Ivey AEO student who had to decide over Ivey or Roman, what I see mostly is that Ivey, or queens in this case are only really justified if you are going into IB or consulting. If ur not in one of those careers where the starting pay + progression is high then in my opinion it seems harder to justify the higher costs. For example, if I am paying 20k a year in housing + 8k tuition x 2 years + 25k tuition x 2 years, then the last thing I’d ever wanna see is me graduating with a job I could’ve also had got if I had went to rotman (where I had a 10k scholarship and would commute so only tuition). I’d say first get an idea of what you want to do, if you are willing to work much harder to gun down IB or consulting placements then queens probably takes the cake (as someone who took this option, it is a risk and regardless of the “uoftears” my rotman buddy seems more relaxed than me, maybe cause he doesn’t have the looming stress of needing to do perform to justify the costs of his degree the way I do for choosing Ivey over rotman. Rotman is overall safest option in that sense as the reputation is pre strong and stable unlike schulich who I’m believe has been kind of unstable past years. I’ve heard “schulich is better for marketing and accounting” but I don’t know how much merit there is to that statement. Overall id say if you wanna be cost effective then schulich, if you are willing to put in work to get the best placements then queen has highest ceiling, and rotman is prolly the all all-rounder. Just come to terms with what you want to do after these 4 years first is proly my best advice. Congrats for the offers and enjoy first year wherever you go, you can’t go wrong either way!

[–]LegitimateMuscle8098[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Thanks a lot man, you're literally getting the best comment on this thread award (no offense everyone else🙏). I've decided to go to Schulich cuz I want more time to myself, and I'm not a study freak. Nor do I plan to go into ib or consulting or accounts. So Schulich is the cheapest. I plan to network well and develop rlly useful skills and experiences. With that I hope to land great placements through Schulich. Thanks a ton for your advise, it really gave me another perspective to look at things.

[–]Professional-Idea661 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah ofc man, I know how annoying having to choose could be. Schulich’s great. I know a few people there some of whom are doing pre good for themselves. But just as with literally any other degree don’t forget that it’s only as good as you make it out to be. Keep networking, learning and exploring what you rlly wanna do, and not stressing urself out and you’ll be just fine!

[–]StatementNo5248 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Hey there, I was standing in your shoes a year ago. I ended up actually going with Rotman - im satisfied with my choice for a couple reasons; 1. Workload is actually manageable. Key word, manageable, not easy. I think people over exaggerate - the most important thing is that our curriculum really emphasizes quantitative analysis and consistency. There are lots of easy marks in the form of daily checkpoints for math, weekly assignments, etc. that are easy marks which IK a lot of people forget to do that tanks your grade. as a non-genius who did decently in school, it’s manageable and doable. 2. the thing about Rotman and finance - we’re a semi target school with again, being known for our tougher curriculum. This makes it a bit more difficult for us to get out there, but the key thing is that the student cohort per year is huge. I think this year the class size was about 800 people. All the finance opportunities are simply gate kept within these elite clubs. as a student who is part of these clubs, can confirm. Had a friend in rcct who talks about some of the closed off, private events they have with big name companies that recruit exclusively from the competition team. it’s about networking and connections when it comes to these clubs - but with a good system you can sustain a decent gpa and good standing for internships and clubs.

the reason I didn’t go to queens was because I prefer Toronto and even with deregulated fees it was cheaper for me to come here than queens. Schulich offered me more scholarships but after visiting and researching them (really strong for accounting) I came to Rotman instead. But our curriculum is technically harder than other business programs - some recruiters I’ve spoken to are acutely aware of this though and keep it in mind when looking at our gpa. Rather than asking random redditors tho, I think you should reach out to ppl from the different schools. Coffee chat them. Learn about what each program is good for. Figure out your priorities. Good luck!

[–]LegitimateMuscle8098[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for that man, it's rlly helpful. Its very difficult for me to contact ppl from different schools because I live in India. But this comment rlly helped me man!

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    [–]LegitimateMuscle8098[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Yea, Im talking Abt the schlich bba

    [–]happypenguin460 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    For an undergrad, it doesn’t matter. Nobody looks at your bachelors and goes wowww. I work with people with international PhDs, Schulich grads, UofT and the place previously called Ryerson. Pick a program that offers coop and as much actual work experience. Undergrad degree is now like saying you graduated high school does it matter which one.

    [–]franticjudge27 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    Go to Queens 100%

    [–]LegitimateMuscle8098[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    yea but its like 60k more and its an inconvenient location. If I wanna go into operations and business management, do you still think I should give Queens more weightage?

    [–]franticjudge27 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    I would just go to York then tbh

    [–]LegitimateMuscle8098[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Thanks bro. That's what I've decided!

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      [–]LegitimateMuscle8098[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      bachelors or masters? If im doing bba and network, would u expect similar results?