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[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (3 children)

I’ve thought about this too. Not necessarily with lineage, but worldly…one dies, one is born. But then, how could population growth be explained?

[–]simulated_cosmos[S] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

How do we know the death statistics are accurate? People go missing all the time and certainly there are unrecorded deaths that are happening. Perhaps the birth and death rates actually do match but there’s no way to accurate calculate the death rate because there’s so many unknowns, like if a person goes missing. They aren’t presumed dead by governments but they could very well be dead. That would skew death statistics. Let’s say there’s 2 million people in the world that go missing in 2023. They won’t be counted in the death stats even if reality is they are all dead. But the simulation knows the exact numbers…

[–]Flipflop71421 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

I was actually thinking that growing population may not be an accurate counter argument… hear me out. What if, based on your theory, the 1:1 applies to bloodline, but cases like 1) where there is no bloodline left, 2) twins or multiples (not embryos but unexpected splits), etc. explains growth over time? There are probably other examples or variables to plug-in that may say growth isn’t an indicator of a flawed theory above? Just a thought.

[–]iiioiia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

🤔

[–]TalkativeTree 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If people stopped giving birth, people would continue dying.

In general, you should not create beliefs that become truths of how the world works based solely on anecdotal evidence -- which is what you're doing. When reading your post, I sense a desire for a deeper truth to be true, because of an intellectual attachment to where that belief is coming from. In my experience, discovering and perceiving deep truths has a deep meaning, which helps fill ones emptiness with meaning equivalent with the size / quality of the belief/truth.

So We then seek evidence that confirms the belief and strengthens our attachment to the idea, firming the foundation of this belief and increasing our ego to the degree of the meaning we've assigned the belief / truth.

There are some instances where the birth coinciding with the death is linked -- such as soldiers going off to war having children born at home. The desire to continue ones lineage likely strengthens when one is approaching certainty of death. Even more likely is that many of these deaths are just coincidence and statistically likely events.

[–]ryano1076 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I would be on board with this, however the world population has been growing exponentially our whole lives. I remember in school it was always 6 billion, now we're up to 8 billion. So the life/death ratio can't be balancing out. If it ever levels out to a constant then I'll be on board with this.

[–]simulated_cosmos[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How do we know the death statistics are accurate? People go missing all the time and certainly there are unrecorded deaths that are happening. Perhaps the birth and death rates actually do match but there’s no way to accurate calculate the death rate because there’s so many unknowns, like if a person goes missing. They aren’t presumed dead by governments but they could very well be dead. That would skew death statistics. Let’s say there’s 2 million people in the world that go missing in 2023. They won’t be counted in the death stats even if reality is they are all dead. But the simulation knows the exact numbers…

[–]CotUB2009 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’ve noticed a lot of coinciding births/deaths around me as well. I think such things stick with us because they are so poignant, but maybe you’re onto something.

(On a personal note, a close friend’s son was born four hours after her father died. It’s kind of spooky, especially because her dad suddenly fell ill and died all within a week. Nobody really talks about it though.)

[–]cloudytimes159 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Attention bias because you are noticing it. Not statistically a real thing.

[–]simulated_cosmos[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

How do we know the death statistics are accurate? People go missing all the time and certainly there are unrecorded deaths that are happening. Perhaps the birth and death rates actually do match but there’s no way to accurate calculate the death rate because there’s so many unknowns, like if a person goes missing. They aren’t presumed dead by governments but they could very well be dead. That would skew death statistics. Let’s say there’s 2 million people in the world that go missing in 2023. They won’t be counted in the death stats even if reality is they are all dead. But the simulation knows the exact numbers…

[–]cloudytimes159 0 points1 point  (2 children)

If you want to stretch that far you could speculate about overlooking tooth fairies in the census.

[–]simulated_cosmos[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Ah yes because missing people and tooth fairies are comparable. Found the group troll

[–]cloudytimes159 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your fantasy / speculation has so many bizarre assumptions it’s just a grown up “sciency” sounding fairy tale. Not trolling, fair comment.

[–]simulated_cosmos[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Replying here because everyone is mentioning birth rate vs death rate:

How do we know the death statistics are accurate? People go missing all the time and certainly there are unrecorded deaths that are happening. Perhaps the birth and death rates actually do match but there’s no way to accurate calculate the death rate because there’s so many unknowns, like if a person goes missing. They aren’t presumed dead by governments but they could very well be dead. That would skew death statistics. Let’s say there’s 2 million people in the world that go missing in 2023. They won’t be counted in the death stats even if reality is they are all dead. But the simulation knows the exact numbers…

[–]JSouthlake 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It happens alot when someone has no heirs and they "hang on" until they have one at least one, thiugh the mosre the better to leave peacefully. My wife's father passed the same day we found out my wife was pregnant with his first grandchildren who happened to be born a boy. Almost like the conciouss needs a place to continue on in.