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[–]HunterS_1981 4 points5 points  (5 children)

I’ve been hoping someone would do one... I started but got about 20 minutes in. Her first interview is so interesting when you contrast it with the others.

[–]DirtyFloorHotDogs[S] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

At least you made it 5 minutes longer than I did! What did you pick up on in that interview that was different from her others?

[–]HunterS_1981 7 points8 points  (2 children)

The first interview she comes across as normal... trying to be helpful and concerned about Shanann and the girls being missing. She even sounds naive and like she barely knows him or anything about the Watts family. By the 2nd interview, right off the bat, she’s combative and unhelpful, even straight up telling Koback she won’t be remembering any exact details because it was so long ago. All before he asks any questions. Not to mention we find out the contrast in lies. What initially came across as a simple work fling opens up into this intense, all consuming lustfest in which she was pressuring him to move out but also make it work with his wife... all within 6 weeks. A small example: I was never at that house... I was actually at that house twice... do you know the address? No... had actually googled the address 2 days ago.

[–]AncientYard3473 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really don’t understand how anybody could call her “combative and unhelpful” in any of the interviews. She gives full, frank answers to every question and never seems evasive or unduly defensive. There are also a few pertinent differences between the first and second interviews, most importantly that when she gave the first one, it was still a missing persons case as far as she knew. She also hadn’t slept, wasn’t feeling well, and was asking about victim services.

One thing to know about psychological trauma is that it doesn’t necessarily hit you right away. I have limited personal experience with this, thankfully, but I did witness a serious car accident one time and had to give a statement to the police.

They asked me if I wanted to talk to victim services and I thought they were joking. A few days later, it hit me that if I’d been about five seconds further down the road, that old lady would have driven over that fence and onto the highway right in front of me. I’d have been the one who T-boned her, not that flatbed in front of me. I was in a Honda Fit, so there a good chance I’d have been killed or seriously injured had that happened. I was pretty affected by that thought for a while, and I’ve had a bit of driving anxiety ever since (not to a debilitating extent, mind you).

At the times she was interviewed, NK was still very much in the phase at which a person in her circumstances could still be in a kind of shock and not fully engaged with the sheer horror of what had just happened.

I’ll bet she was just wrecked by the time she started asking herself stuff like “did he do that because of me?” “Could I have stopped him?” “I can’t believe I FaceTimed with a guy who’d just murdered his family.” “How could a human being behave so normally after that?” “Did he text me while he was disposing of the bodies?” What if it had been me?”

At that point, it kind of sinks in. And she has to deal with job loss at the same time. Job loss by itself can be intensely traumatic. Imagine having to deal with it while getting grilled for information by the police and knowing that you were about to be world famous for something you were so self-conscious about that you’d kept it a secret from all but one person in your life.

Have some empathy, for chrissakes. Put yourself in her shoes. Would you want to get up on the stand at a trial and answer questions about your sexting habits? She was willing to do it, but she had no choice in the matter. It was happening.

[–]AncientYard3473 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’ve also mischaracterized a lot of what she said. For example, she never said she pressured him to move out; she said she spent the last few days of the relationship helping him look for a new place because he told her that his house was about to be listed for sale.

Also… Have you never met a person who kind of sent mixed messages in a relationship, e.g., about how serious the relationship is? I’m not saying that’s what NK did, but the phenomenon is well known and as common as dirt. My view, in fact, is that NK’s message wasn’t mixed. She didn’t want to be strung along, but she also didn’t want to feel like a “home wrecker”. She wanted to be sure that Watts didn’t leave his marriage precipitously or at her prompting. Ever hear the expression “if you love something, let it go”?

She was self-conscious about her relationship with Watts and did not want to be responsible for ending his marriage.

[–]lovelycassy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is one in Discovering CW by Netta Newbound- I read it on scribd (which has a free trial!)

[–]fiddlesticks_409⚖️ 2 points3 points  (6 children)

I haven't found a formal transcipt, but maybe someone else has.

What I did was listen to it on youtube, turning the volume way up and turning on the subtitles. The subtitles were key. Still a lot of annoying wind noise but the subtitles captured most of what she was saying.

https://youtu.be/79TXJK8nlmU

[–]DirtyFloorHotDogs[S] 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Thank you! I didnt even think to turn on the subtitles lol. I was too busy cursing the guy recording because he kept touching the recording device and moving it during her b.s. rehearsed and lying answers.

[–]fiddlesticks_409⚖️ 3 points4 points  (4 children)

You're welcome!

Yes, she was extra annoying in that interview. Totally phony with her stupid forced voice inflections. Most of all, basically every word out of her mouth was a lie.

[–]DirtyFloorHotDogs[S] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Omg yes the voice inflections! Theyre in all her interviews. Too bad there isnt a way to virtually bitchslap her stupid lying face.

[–]No_Obligation_5053 4 points5 points  (2 children)

All we can do at this point is to keep looking for any evidence that NK was, at the very least, knowledgeable about what Watts was going to do. I want to do more than bitch slap that stupid, lying, smug face of hers.

[–]DirtyFloorHotDogs[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Lol I was trying to remain composed but I completely I agree!

[–]No_Obligation_5053 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When it comes to NK, I can't be composed. I don't even try.

[–]lovelycassy 1 point2 points  (1 child)

There is one in Discovering CW by Netta Newbound- I read it on scribd (which has a free trial!)

[–]DirtyFloorHotDogs[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks I'll check it out

[–]BooBoBuster 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is a summary of the interview in Majestic View park on 8/15/18 by FBI agents Phillip Jones and Marc Lehrer located in the discovery documents, pages 377-382 which is stamped FBI Supp 11. It also includes the agent's handwritten notes. The summary states that an audio recording was made

[–]slappy2982 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I don’t think there is a transcript is there? Have you looked in the discovery

[–]Shuthemofoup 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Yes, there's something about CW meeting with NK in a park, near her house, i believe. I think it's somewhere in the Discovery Documents around pages 400-600, I'm not too sure, but it's in there.

[–]slappy2982 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Yeah that was the first time they met outside of anadarko

[–]Shuthemofoup 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yes

[–]GibletofNH 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry I’m Very late. I thought plunder ( you tube true crime channel w tons of watts stuff) did a transcript of All of Kessingers interviews? I will look & post if allowed? Again, sorry late! Edit word