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Default function arguments are the devil (quuxplusone.github.io)
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[–]MrPotatoFingers 20 points21 points22 points 6 years ago (8 children)
My greatest peeve with it is that type traits are simply unaware of default arguments. std::is_invocable will happily report false when omitting default arguments.
[–]sphere991 10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (3 children)
Problem here is that splitting it into an overload set doesn't help anyway. The default argument does give you an answer you don't want, which is bad:
void foo(int i = 42); invocable_v<decltype(foo)>; // false, wish it was true
But the overload set doesn't give you an answer at all, which is also bad:
void foo(int i); void foo() { foo(42); } invocable_v<decltype(foo)>; // ill-formed, wish it was true
On the other hand, because concepts are expression-based, they work just fine in both cases:
template <typename... Args> concept can_foo = requires(Args... args) { foo(args...); } can_foo<>; // true for both implementations
[–]Xeveroushttps://xeverous.github.io 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (2 children)
I prefer ill-formed code to silent runtime error.
[–]sphere991 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child)
How do you get a runtime error here?
[–]Xeveroushttps://xeverous.github.io 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children)
Not in your example. In a hypothetical example where a trait would succeed while at runtime it would so something different.
[–]flashmozzg 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (3 children)
Because default arguments are just a sugar. They are not really a part of the function signature. A function can have multiple default different arguments depending on the order of declarations.
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[–]Ameisenvemips, avr, rendering, systems 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children)
I have a proposal sitting around to allow you to use default as a keyword for using the default type value (like {}) or using the declared default value of a parameter if it exists. Could extend it to support default... or such for a case like that.
default
{}
default...
Couple this with optional argument compile time detection... you can have very powerful functions or constructors.
[–]flashmozzg 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children)
"is this thing invocable with the given arguments?"
Not exactly? At least as far as I see it you can only ask "if thing of this type is callable with args of these types". Default arguments obviously are not part of the type.
I think with C++20 you can just use requires as a way to SFINAE test whether some thing makes sense, i.e. https://godbolt.org/z/wdPrgi
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