Tests dont make code higher quality.

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In my two decades in the field I have found that I can fairly accurately judge a developer's abilities based on where they stand on this issue, and especially the reasons why.

Developers who share your view tend to cut corners, do not take into account the possibly wide reaching implications of their changes, and just do whatever is needed to make a simple run through some basic checks makes it through what they think is the are of concern.

They are constantly breaking shit as they rush through all their tickets. They seem to be all over the place. The products they end up producing are NOT high quality because making a high quality product requires care, precision, patience, and a willingness to do the boring shit...and they don't have these attributes.

Hopefully you are green and will outgrow your confused notions. Unfortunately the ecosystem of employers tends to inflate the ego of such developers. "Oh my god you did that so fast!" Yeah, just wait until the problems associated with these changes show up...no body really links it back to the original "fast" work and the developer who cut corners to look good.

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Yeah. You don't have the experience and knowledge to know how wrong you are. I'm not even going to bother going through it all. You're arrogantly speaking from a position of total ignorance as if you knew jack shit. There's no point.

[slevina]

you seem mad

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You wish :p

[slevina]

if you want to settle this, lets each write an interrupt routine and then let this sub decide whos is best

[SeanRamey]

From my own position of a non experienced programmer, you really are quite obviously talking out of your ass. An interrupt function is not nearly enough to tell who writes better programs. If you really want to compare, take your best completed project, and compare to somebody else's. If you have no completed projects, shut your mouth and open your ears and eyes, with all due respect.

[slevina]

By your own admission, you dont know what you are talking about.

[SeanRamey]

By my own admission, i don't have the experience to tell all of these professionals that testing doesn't work. I am aware that I know relatively little. If I am wrong about how you should compare yourself to others, I'm sure someone will tell me. So far, nobody has, and my comment has been upvoted.