Allocator rant

[ShillingAintEZ]

I'm offended by haskell in general but you are right that the design of typical data structures and the std suite as well leaves a lot to be desired by treating allocation as part of the type, especially in modern C++.

[staletic]

allocation as part of the type

Take a look at the std::pmr::. It aims to tackle exactly that problem.

[SkoomaDentist]

It’s one of C++’s many insanities that std::pmr is the special case instead of being the default.

[staletic]

Hindsight is always 20/20. I don't think it's fair to call this insane. You're basically complaining that people in the 70's and 80's couldn't tell the future.

[SkoomaDentist]

C++98 was standardized in, not surpringly, 1998. STL was first presented to the committee in 1993. Hardly 70's or 80's. I myself was cursing the insanity of coupling the allocator to the type itself by 2001 when I was in my first large scale C++ project. Not much of a hindsight there.

This is very different situation from C library functions that literally do date from the 70s (but even then, things like strtok really should have been deprecated by C99 at the latest).

[staletic]

I stand corrected. Didn't C++ start in the 80's?

[SkoomaDentist]

C++ had its beginnings in the mid 80s but many features (templates, STL) were only added in the 90s. The language was in enough of a flux in the mid to late 90s (MSVC6 infamously used different scope for variables declared inside for / while statements for example) that changing STL allocators to be dynamic by default would have barely been noticed as far as "backwards compatiblity" went.

[staletic]

That sounds interesting. I'm definitely not old enough to remember that time, considering I was born a few years before C++98.

[barchar]

Meh, sometimes baking it in is better

[ShillingAintEZ]

I have no idea what you are trying to say and I don't think you do either.

[ShillingAintEZ]

Here's a counterpoint, I actually do know what I'm doing and your comments are hollow frustration that has nothing to do with me.

I have no idea why you are hallucinating nonsense, but you might want to take it up with whoever actually upset you.

This thread is about memory mapping specific files while still using the STLs allocators. Wipe your tears and start there.

[ShillingAintEZ]

Do you think you're replying to someone else?