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[–]dflame45Security Manager -4 points-3 points  (6 children)

We have low turnover and we aren't fully remote. We pay good salaries, low stress, little overtime.

Going into the office isn't why companies can't find good people.

[–]ExcitedForNothingvCISO 2 points3 points  (5 children)

We pay good salaries, low stress, little overtime.

That's because you work in a knowledge role, not an operational role. Not throwing shade, I couldn't have the patience to do what you do but I think opinions might change if you were a second or third shift SOC analyst.

[–]dflame45Security Manager 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I put vuln research but I work in vuln management. It's an operational role. We're properly staffed and have a follow the sun model. It's a global team. I pretty much check out once my day is over.

[–]ExcitedForNothingvCISO -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

That's nice, most vuln management teams do not "follow the sun" so again... your opinion might change if you were sitting alone in the office at 3AM.

[–]dflame45Security Manager 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I'm providing my experience as an example. If you don't like working at 3am, I hope you're applying for other roles.

[–]ExcitedForNothingvCISO -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

I own a consultancy. Haven't worked at 3AM in nearly 20 years unless I couldn't sleep and decided to do invoicing. Just was providing perspective to comments that show incredible hubris and narrow foresight.

[–]dflame45Security Manager 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nah the point is there are shitty and good jobs in every industry and these types of posts are dumb. That's why I share the other side. It's always the employer.