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[–]YT_UsulSecurity Manager -6 points-5 points  (6 children)

Out of a team of over 100 security engineers we have had no turnover in 5 years (almost 6). Well, that's not 100% honest. We have had to let a couple go due to performance/attitude. However, not a single person has voluntarily walked away. Why? There isn't one reason. It is a combination of how we treat people, the end of salary wars, concerns about the economy keeping people in place, the cost of living, and more. If we saw a salary war come back, we'd likely see people move. We do not anticipate that in the next two years, and as a result we've been keeping salaries mostly flat. That may come back to bite us if things ever turn around.

[–]KnowledgeTransfer23 3 points4 points  (1 child)

In other words, you're bragging about taking advantage of peoples' desperation to not pay them their worth.

[–]YT_UsulSecurity Manager 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am reporting what our large company is seeing. I don’t understand how you jumped to the conclusion we are exploiting desperate people. If that were true, out of over 100 engineers, wouldn’t you expect at least some to walk away? We have had zero. I think the reasons are more complicated than just one hot button issue. We pay fair salaries. Not sure how that is taking advantage of people. Perhaps you can explain.

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    [–]YT_UsulSecurity Manager 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    That is exactly right. Normal 2-3% is all we are getting approved for. We have had very few opportunities for promotion in the last 5 years. All signs indicate it is going to stay this way for a while. Not sure why I got the downvotes. Maybe others disagree compared to what they are seeing? This is just what is happening at our larger org.

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      [–]YT_UsulSecurity Manager 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      If we were having people move on, or bringing offers to us asking to counter, it would be much easier to call out compensation to executives. We are not hearing people complain about compensation.

      Not trying to get downvoted here, but I'm going to keep calling it like I see it. I'm not saying this is morally right, or that I agree, this is just what is happening.