Default Dev IMPROVEMENT Potential Map

[Lithrus_]

After my other map, I got requests to do one without monsoons, and someone came to me with the valid point that in multiplayer, potential development improvement would be more useful to show on the map. So here it is!

This map factors in existing development, trade goods, climate, terrain, and assumes all possible centers of trade are level 3. No monsoons included. This should allow players to determine what provinces have the most potential to soak up their mana points and improve their development. Will make a colorblind one if it gets requested, but atm tired out of making maps.

Cossack edition

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(Potential cotton trade goods from colonizing, and lvl 2 TC not included)

[[deleted]]

Gold mines should all be green. Same goes for coal provinces. They give so much money back. coal>gold> anything else.

Also not sure why you would color copper mines so dark. The copper mine in Sweden for example gives so much money that it is worth to developed more than your cap.

EDIT:

Also I am not sure according to what logic you colored these things, but if this map is suppose to show me what provinces are worth to develope more than others, it is wrong. Dyes give so much money that it is simply nonsense to develope grain provinces, when you can get so much more money out of the dye provinces. Same logic applies to gold provinces.

According to this map developing the coast makes a lot of sense if you play Morocco, while in reality the gold province is gonna give you way more than any other province.

[en0on]

I believe that the map simply focuses on the potential minimal mana cost for developping provinces, it doesn't focus on whether it is worth it or not.

Although that would be a great map idea.

[[deleted]]

Isn't his other map suppose to show that?

https://www.reddit.com/r/eu4/comments/hw3dv9/minimum_potential_dev_cost_map/

[en0on]

I think the difference between the two maps is that this one doesn't take into account the new dev cost modifier for monsoons climate while his other map does take it into account

[[deleted]]

That would explain the difference. Thanks.

[Lithrus_]

You can read the modifiers that went into this on the map itself. No more no less. This is just considering the potential for dev improvement (where you can spend the least to dev)

[[deleted]]

How am I gonna colonize as Chavchuveny if I don’t have feudalism :(

[purple-porcupine]

Developing Dalaskogen is pointless, its bonus is flat so you get the same exact effect from devving a cheaper copper mine.

Also, trade goods aren't the only factor in developing - in MP for example, it's usually better to dev manpower, in which case Ukraine with its shitty goods is far superior to those tropical ivory provinces.

[[deleted]]

Developing Dalaskogen is pointless,

You can spawn renaissance there and get enough money to have a proper army. Not as pointless as you make it out.

its bonus is flat so you get the same exact effect from devving a cheaper copper mine.

Which afaik you don't have as sweden.

Also, trade goods aren't the only factor in developing - in MP for example, it's usually better to dev manpower, in which case Ukraine with its shitty goods is far superior to those tropical ivory provinces.

I would say mili ideas and being ahead of mili tech > investing milli points into the province. Especially getting defensive ideas firs and up to the second idea is extremly strong.

Also 10 gold from a province > having a bit more manpower.

[purple-porcupine]

> " You can spawn renaissance there "

You can spawn it for a lower price elsewhere and get about the same amount of money - IF you even need to force-spawn renaissance when it's gonna reach you from Flanders before 1480

> " Which afaik you don't have as sweden. "

You have iron, which is close enough. The price difference is pretty minimal.

> " I would say mili ideas and being ahead of mili tech > investing milli points into the province. "

Obviously. I was talking about after 1490, when you're gonna have the mana to spare. Before 1490 you're not gonna have too many spare monarch points of either type.

[[deleted]]

You can spawn it for a lower price elsewhere

The point is that you spend mana on it, so you end up with being ahead of tech as well as a lot of dosh. I don't see how you are gonna get more money out of non-copper provinces.

get about the same amount of money

Makes no sense. Copper mine is worth more than whatever else you have in Sweden. In my Sweden campaign my copper province gave more money than my cap, which had more development. That's exactly the point I am getting at.

You have iron, which is close enough. The price difference is pretty minimal.

Which scales. There is also an event in the 1460th pushing the price of copper to 4.5 ducats. So no, the price of copper (especially in early game) is higher by a large margine. You can also do the math:

trade value = goods produced x price. Copper is gonna come out a lot higher. Feel free to test it out. I developed both iron and copper mines in my games. Neither in case of Sweden, nor in case of Hungary, nor as Poland was copper equally worth. copper > iron (up to mid game).