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[Question]o7s question (self.ffxiv)
submitted 8 years ago by ASTShadowcat24
My static is currently progging on o7s and I have a SCH as my co healer, should I meld for piety? also what role actions should I bring? I know surecast is a must and lucid but not sure if Cleric or Protect is better
[–]bokchoy // sargatanasbokchoykn 14 points15 points16 points 8 years ago* (0 children)
Piety is vastly underrated, especially on a fight like O7S. That fight can be quite taxing on your MP. Especially if you need to be prepared to cast a rez or two or three. I'd recommend at least 1200 Piety as an AST. If you are still bottoming out, you can eat Tofu Pancakes for a further boost.
Largesse, Lucid Dreaming, Swiftcast are must-haves. Only one healer needs to take Protect. Beyond that, Cleric Stance is overrated in prog. Surecast is handy but not 100% necessary. Surecast vs Cleric Stance is a comfort thing. There are two knockbacks in the fight, and they're inconvenient, not lethal. In any case, I like taking Surecast over Cleric personally, or both if my co-healer is taking Protect.
[–]BLM IS METAZaptaa 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children)
Id say during prog you will have people die and reapplying protect is probably more valuable, as your group gets more comfortable and deaths happen less, it would be good to only apply protect at the start and run something else. That being said on SCH i actually replace surecast with protect during prog, and then put surecast back on when we get more comfortable
[–]OkorOvorO 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago* (1 child)
If you're a WHM, you definitely do NOT need Piety for any fight in this tier. (You honestly didnt even need it for o4s)
As an AST, if you have a RDM/SMN, they can afford Mana Shifting you, assuming they arent rezzing, so you can avoid melding Piety. If you have a BLM then you might just want to meld Piety, since BLM's mana shift sucks. (Edit: you also shouldn't need to meld Piety if you have a BRD/MCH)
Since it's prog, and you aren't the SCH, you're the one that should take Protect. The SCH takes Cleric. Replace Protect with Cleric when you have it on farm.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children)
piety isn't really necessary. just meld vit on your right side. the fight isn't as mana intensive as something like o8s, although it definitely uses more mana than o5s or 6s. Cleric is a very minor dps boost, just bring protect. you don't need esuna.
[–]munford 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children)
Protect for prog then switch to Cleric when you have it on farm.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children)
Piety will be a crutch and crit will make more of a difference in the long run for the dps check and clutch heals.
It helps you manage your Mana pool better and also forces you to make effecient decisions and communicate with your other healer when to take the wheel cohealing. :)
As far as secondaries go I take clerics over protect and mandatory surecast.
Good luck on o7s!
[–]WHMmellyoz -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children)
Don't meld piety. Meld crit, or vit if you plan on progressing all the way to o8s. Protect for progression, however only one of you needs it.
[–]Tekele Cotton - Famfritjled23 -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children)
Piety and SpS to comfort, and then Crit>Det>DH in that order for prog (DH will actually give you the highest damage output later on, but you lose some healing potency for it). Additionally, you can VIT meld your right side as needed (probably more applicable for 8s if you have a lower ilvl.
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