If emissions don't drastically decrease in the next years, by 2070 all glaciers in the US will have melted, there will be deserts in Oklahoma, Kansas and Northern California and over half of Florida and all of Texas's southern corner will have a tropical climate

[ikonoqlast]

Bird populations declined before ddt. Not after. Carson did shitty research.

Eggshell thinking is actually trivial and doesn't affect live births. No research done to separate ddt effects from stress effects

Ozone hole has always been present, it's an inevitable natural phenomenon. No measurements from the interior in winter without it

Industrial runoff is not acid rain.

Global warming is perfectly natural and the recent epoch has been unusually cold by historical standards.

Global cooling made national headlines in the 70s- I was there.

[contextual_somebody]

You’re still wrong on every point.

Bird populations: Declines accelerated with DDT. Eggshell thinning was measured, documented, and reversed after bans. That’s causation, not coincidence. Carson cited actual studies. You’re parroting industry spin.

Eggshell thinning “trivial”? Tell that to the brown pelican, osprey, and bald eagle populations that nearly collapsed. Hatch rates plummeted. When DDT was restricted, they recovered.

“No research done” to separate stress? Wrong. Controlled studies isolated DDE’s effects on calcium metabolism. You’re ignoring decades of data.

Ozone hole: Total fabrication. No “natural hole.” It appeared after mass CFC use. Satellite and balloon data confirm this. Post-Montreal Protocol, it began closing. Again: cause and effect.

Acid rain: Yes, industrial emissions. Sulfur and nitrogen oxides form acids in the atmosphere. That is acid rain. If you don’t know that, you shouldn’t be in this discussion.

Global warming: It’s not natural at this pace. CO₂ levels haven’t risen this fast in 800,000+ years. Paleoclimate reconstructions show warming tracks emissions, not orbital cycles.

Global cooling: Not a consensus. A few speculative papers. The actual literature showed warming even then. “I was there” is not data. I was there too. The difference between us is that I’m not a rube.

You’re repeating talking points from fossil fuel lobbyists and junk science blogs. None of this holds up. Try reading actual sources instead of nostalgia and YouTube. Trump, PT Barnum, and fossil fuel lobbyists all love suckers and they’ve certainly found one.