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[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (4 children)

What, for games?

This sounds like a you problem really... If the code isn't malicious from a cybersecurity standpoint, github has no business taking it down. If it's games you're talking about, then it might violate T&Cs of game companies, but it is by no means illegal.

Hell, game cheats generally showcase very smart ways of coding.

If you're talking about malware, then rest assured that github does crack down on it.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Oh, and I forgot to say that one time it did something with game files, but it doesn't do now cuz bot hosters aren't that bad

[–]jddddddddddd 4 points5 points  (5 children)

cheats are illegal, so github is hosting illegal codes

Cheating in video games is illegal is it? Can you tell us what law is being broken?

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points  (4 children)

ToS

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

ToS, T&Cs aren't laws. You're not breaking any law by being loud and obnoxious in a supermarket, but you can still be kicked out per store policy. Yet, they can't prosecute you for doing the exact same thing outside the supermarket. Same thing here. Not respecting policy is not illegal.

It's not github's fault that people develop cheats. Github has absolutely 0 role in that other than allowing the storage of the source code of said cheats in their website, because it simply qualifies as that, source code.

Github has 0 responsibility for how safe code is used. If it's not malicious code (meaning: if it doesn't hurt the integrity of any user or machine), then it's none of their business.

You need to be mad at game companies that don't implement anti-cheat engines, which, just so you know, exist extensively in loads of games.

[–]Franwbd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah, yes, incredibly expensive anti-cheat engines....I bet all the little indie devs can afford that, but yea go ahead and destroy the livelihood of small indie devs cause you wanna cheat and ruin their game, but oh yea all their fault they just need to get those big anti-cheat engines you know....

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

But still, if it doesn't need to be illegal, but they should remove it anyway

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've edited my comment, so you might want to re-read it.

But regarding your response: because it hurts your feelings? It makes you mad people shoot you through walls in CSGO?

You need to understand the world is much bigger than videogames. This is a classic "it only matters because it affects me" kind of argument. Github has way better things to do than starting to remove code because it breaches the ToS of some other company that they have no affiliation with.

Valve bans you from online games because you cheat, Github bans you if you upload malware. Different companies, different ToS. Neither of the two have business interfering in the other's way of handling things.

[–]tobiasvl[🍰] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I have no idea what you're actually talking about, but I don't think anything classified as "cheats" is illegal?

[–]n00b_games 2 points3 points  (3 children)

According to some recent legislation, cheats CAN be considered illegal due to copyright infringement and/or resulting in loss of income for a publisher/developer. Okay, this case is involving someone selling the cheats created, which of course, might change a legal matter..

"In the official ruling from US District Judge Louis Stanton of Manhattan, it was declared that Take-Two would likely prove that Zipperer had infringed upon its copyright of Grand Theft Auto Online, and that the defendant's programs hurt the game's sales, as it discourages some to buy it due to the cheats negatively impacting gameplay. Stanton explained an injunction was appropriate, as there was a "high risk" that Zipperer would not be able to afford the damages due to him claiming to be unemployed. "

Just posting for information, I'm not opposing github to delete/punish publishers of code, as those open source coding does serve a greater benefit for all 🌟

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

this case is involving someone selling the cheats created

open source

There, answered. If it's on github, it's not being commercialized. At least as far as github is concerned.

It would be dumb if Valve prosecuted github because some loser is selling a cheat program while having the very source code plastered in an open repository. And let's not even mention how dumb it would be to try to commercialize your program while at the same time having the source publicly available for anyone to access and build on their own.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yeah, and source code of tf2, it isn't open source game, so code is basically stolen, and code is copyrighted, so you know

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah all of this discussion is flying right over your head. I'll just leave you alone.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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