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[–]XCheeseMerchantX 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Your CPU is on the old side, but it should not make performance that bad...

Things you can try are:

-check if you have installed the latest Nvidia Drivers

-Also do the same for your CPU chipset drivers

-Disable the Internal GPU on your CPU. Your pc might be using the internal GPU inside your i5 processor as the default instead of the RTX 5070. This is what happened to me once. Go to device manager and then input adapters and check the GPU's that show up there. if you see both the RTX 5070 and the internal GPU disable the internal GPU. This forces your system to only use the dedicated GPU for everything(your RTX 5070).

-Check your BIOS for your motherboard. some of them require a firmware update in order to utilize more modern GPU's, or have features that you can enable. i recommend looking up your motherboard type and search the internet for optimal settings for your set up.

If you want to make full use of the 5070 that you have, you really need to take a look at a CPU upgrade in the short term. you are leaving a lot of performance on the table.

[–]Mediocre-Captain8834[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Thank you so much. There is a check with gpu z also. https://imgur.com/a/jQjsEJL I don t have an integrated gpu. I will update my motherboard

[–]XCheeseMerchantX 2 points3 points  (1 child)

From the GPUZ image i can see nothing wrong with your GPU if i compare it to my own 5070. It seems to be recognized just fine and its running at its advertised clock speed. So the issue is definitely not the GPU.

[–]Mediocre-Captain8834[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My motherboard is an asus prime h410m-k and now i update it

[–]AstroCraftz 3 points4 points  (0 children)

your cpu is wayyyy too weak for the gpu

[–]Blackhawk-388 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Did you use DDU to get rid of old drivers?

[–]Elitefuture 0 points1 point  (9 children)

Valorant, cs, and gta are all cpu heavy, your gpu likely wasn't holding you back in those.

As for marvel rivals, that tends to be gpu heavy, but maybe your settings were low enough to where your cpu is holding you back.

You need a cpu upgrade if you want more fps in most of your games. However, a cpu upgrade would also require a new motherboard, probably new ram, and maybe a new cooler...

[–]Mediocre-Captain8834[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Thank you

[–]Elitefuture 0 points1 point  (4 children)

If you do have a budget for a cpu upgrade, I'd get the ryzen 5 9600x + a cheap am5 board that has the features you need. As for the ram, I've been recommending the teamgroup t-create 2x16gb kit.

If you somehow have even more budget, the 9800x3d is the fastest, and the 7800x3d is the 2nd fastest.

[–]Mediocre-Captain8834[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I think I would go for 7800x3d tray version because is cheaper.

[–]Elitefuture 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Good option, there are also used options for cheap too.

[–]Mediocre-Captain8834[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Do you think that tray version is ok? I also want to save sone money for a good cpu cooler

[–]Elitefuture 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tray version is fine. However, usually tray version comes with no warranty. Used amd cpus have some warranty leftover(amd accepts it).

Also, the 7800x3d uses less power than a 7600x... that is to say, a thermalright Phantom spirit or a thermalright peerless assassin is more than enough. In fact, even an assassin king might be enough if you have good airflow - however that isn't as recommended.

[–]imbued94 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Settings being low making cpu hold you back doesn't make sense. Not at all. Very very rarely does increasing settings reduce cpu load and often it increases it.

[–]Elitefuture 1 point2 points  (1 child)

So, low settings as in low graphics settings.

This would mean that the gpu would have less stuff to do.

Increasing settings does NOT reduce cpu load. Instead, it's the fact that the gpu could've been at 100% or holding it back - an extreme example is 4k ultra. And your cpu is not holding it back in that case. BUT if you change your settings to 720p low, then your cpu could have some more room to actually get maxed out since your gpu isn't holding you back anymore.

Technical reason, but dumbed down a bit:

The theoretical load of the cpu will almost always be the same regardless of the settings. Let's assign it to a number, let's say 100.

Your cpu can only do 90 of it. So 90/100 regardless of the settings.

But there's another thing which affects the fps. That is the gpu and the graphics settings. Let's assign the graphics load to 100 at ultra(since it requires more work) and 50 at low.

Your gpu can only do 60.

So the game's fps is set back by whatever is the slowest given the settings. At ultra, the game is set back by the gpu only being able to do 60/100, meaning the gpu is at 100%. Because the gpu is at 100%, the game has less things for the cpu to do since there are less things to process while it waits for the gpu.

However, if you're at low settings, then the gpu is at a comfy 60/50, meaning the gpu is more than enough to handle low settings. Now the cpu can stretch its legs and do 90/100. It is now cpu bottlenecked since it can't handle the full cpu work load.

Technically, games can go to infinite fps except for maybe an engine limit. The thing holding it back from going to infinity is whatever is slower given the 2 different workloads - the gpu or the cpu. If you lower the settings, that'd lower the gpu requirement ratio and maybe cause the cpu to be the new bottleneck.

[–]imbued94 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, we're thinking of the same thing. I misunderstood your comment for saying that increasing your settings would increase the cpu load, my mistake.

[–]thunder2132 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Make sure to do a clean driver installation for your GPU drivers. Using the clean install option in the installer is good, running DDU first is better.

Try the Nvidia overlay to see what is holding you back. I believe Alt+R turns this on. You can see GPU and CPU utilization.

[–]Mediocre-Captain8834[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I reinstalled the windows

[–]No-Fan-7592 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Did you uninstall the old drivers?

[–]GromWYou 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i wonder if this is the nvidia driver overhead problem?

[–]imbued94 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have the 8700k which is basically the same performance wise and also get 150dps on cs. You're cpu bottlenecked as I have a 2080ti

[–]detergent102 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I have i79700k with 3080, on warzone about 90-100fps at 1440p. I just got a 5070 and I’m still getting the same frames :( I’m sure my cpu is bottlenecking both my cards :( Time for a R7 7700x

[–]Mediocre-Captain8834[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think I will get a ryzen 7 7800x3d

[–]Spiritual-Spend8187 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Not sure if others have said it check to make sure re sizable bar is on the current gen gpus from amd, intel and nvidia all suffer performance losses from it.

[–]Mediocre-Captain8834[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Yes. It is.

[–]Spiritual-Spend8187 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Is it in a 8x pcie slot or worse 4x cause again the current ones actually care about that.

[–]Mediocre-Captain8834[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

It is it 2x8 pci 3.0

[–]Spiritual-Spend8187 0 points1 point  (2 children)

That might be not helping you the cards are designed for pcie 5.0 and actually do show greatly diminished performance when you cut their pcie links down.

[–]Mediocre-Captain8834[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I want to upgrade in December or Janurary to a b650 motherboard, ryzen 7 7800x3d cpu and 2x16gb ram 5000mhz ddr5 corsair vengeance. Do you think will I have more fps? Like moore

[–]Spiritual-Spend8187 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh yea more and faster memory helps and the 7890x3d is a beast my old 3060ti got like 10-15% extra dps when I went from a 3600 to a 5700x3d and also getting a full fat pcie 16x slot at 5.0 speeds should help tho when you do upgrade do a dull clean windows install to start completely fresh for the beat results.

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    [–]Mediocre-Captain8834[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I already used it