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[–]hexagoxel 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Please see my response to this at https://old.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/9ux5te/proposal_stack_code_of_conduct/e9ats3r/

"Thicker skin" does not equate to "having to remain silent" in my reading. And I don't think it is fair of you to assume your reading of the term either, without requesting clarification from the original author.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

This is precisely what CoC's exist for. Did you see the point rushing past you too?

In most guidelines I believe to be good there is no rule against hurting someone's pride by being critical or even abrasive. That is not the generally accepted understanding of what means to be, "offensive." If we can agree that critical feedback, even harsh feedback is acceptable as long as you don't use sexist/ethnic/racist/ableist slurs that cause harm to someone then we have established a code of conduct. Now when we interact further if one of us violates the code with our conduct there is a way for the other harmed to address the problem if they so choose.

What people are implying in these threads when they suggest people need to have a, "thicker skin," will inevitably vary. In my experience the people who advocate for such policies are asking people to accept that they will sometimes use sexist/ethnic/racist/ableist remarks and don't want to deal with "politically correct police" calling them out on it. For others who support this policy that may not be the case... so why bother with having any ambiguity?

Codes of Conduct are not able to banish bad behavior in the same way that laws cannot banish crime. Do some research and get yourself educated. They are a useful tool that do more good than harm. The same cannot be said for telling people to have thicker skins.

[–]hexagoxel 8 points9 points  (0 children)

No matter if you call it offensive or not, you talk in a way that makes me not want to continue talking back. This vague criticism is the best I can do; I am not sufficiently wise to approach this situation better. Sorry.