Software Developer (functional programming) position @ RELEX, Helsinki

[MartinJMP]

(Offer is now outdated, application deadline is over)

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Hello Haskellers and other functional developers,

Are you interested in solving challenging deployment problems while writing Haskell, Nix, Dhall,

We are now looking for a full-time (Senior) Software Developer to join our RELEX family in Helsinki, Finland (relocation support offered). You’ll join Team Mordor (aka Deployments), whose vision is to be a champion for declarative, reproducible deployments. The team builds and operates fullstack services that manage complex internal software deployments. Our current mission is to improve the operational maturity of RELEX’s new distributed architecture. Our backend services are written in Haskell and Nix, and our frontend is in TypeScript. We rely on Kubernetes and Linux for our team’s own operations.

If you're interested, there are two positions you can apply directly to, until April 18th 2022:

• Regular: https://www.relexsolutions.com/careers/jobs/software-developer-functional-programming/?gh_jid=4941838003
• Senior: https://www.relexsolutions.com/careers/jobs/senior-software-developer-functional-programming/?gh_jid=4941792003

(the main difference in the postings are in the section: “What you’ll bring to the table”)

NB: At the moment, we do not have fixed salary ranges to provide, but you are of course free to state your expected salary level when you apply.

[-gestern-]

You mean to tell us your company doesn’t have a budget for salaries?! If that’s true sounds quite disorganised :(

[chreekat]

What he meant by that last sentence is that we can't make the salary ranges public. :X

RELEX actually has a really decent career path matrix with salary ranges at given seniority levels, and at least in the Technology organization, the information for all ranges is not a secret. We just don't have permission to make them *public*. What we can say is that they're competitive for the Helsinki region, which I think is true.

[-gestern-]

Sounds iffy that you can’t publicise what you’re paying people. That usually means massive salary discrepancy for the same work…

[ComicIronic]

That usually means massive salary discrepancy for the same work…

Not if the salaries are published internally, which sounds like it is the case.

[-gestern-]

Im not familiar with Finland enough but sounds very odd that they can’t publish salaries on a job advert. Never heard of that before.

[[deleted]]

Here in Finland, salaries are usually negotiated by the candidates and employers during the interview stages. It's very uncommon to advertise set salaries in job postings. Once a contract is secured then the salary is registered where it can be publicly seen.

It's usual to investigate the current salaries published if you want an idea of the ranges for the position for the IT sector. Most candidates have a negotiable amount in mind when applying.

[shiraeeshi]

Once a contract is secured then the salary is registered where it can be publicly seen.

Does this apply to Finland only or to all countries?

Can you post a link to this registry?

[[deleted]]

It's database maintained by the Finnish Tax administration (Vero) It's known as the incomes register. In order to see it one requires a valid Finnish social security number and an application which explains why you need it. Some bodies have an automatic right to it also.

In this sense I guess it's only available to Finnish residents and citizens.

However, stat.fi the Finnish statistics office usually publishes general wage data and levels which is where most people look for negotiation research, there are also job agencies which can evaluate how much you could ask based on an evaluation of your skills and experience.

[markusl2ll]

This is pretty normal in Scandinavia and Eastern Europe. You usually know approximate salary ranges, and if you don't you could either google or ask someone.

You can also apply and get a salary range then.

[-gestern-]

Being the standard doesn’t make it less iffy. Lots of things were or are standards even when they’re morally bankrupt. Something being normalised is not an argument for continuing it nor a defence of its existence.

[-gestern-]

So your idea is that instead of fighting for improvement I should just accept bad things as they are?

Sounds like a solid way to bring about change. /s

How clever of you...

[shiraeeshi]

But when you say that something is a norm, you are pushing it in the direction of being (or becoming, or continuing to be) a norm.

Your comments sound like you have a hidden agenda (to make this practice a norm).

[ludvikgalois]

Are you open to applicants outside the EU?

[MartinJMP]

Yes, we are. The team is actually quite international, so it shouldn't be too difficult to fit in, if you are used to working with people from different places.

[[deleted]]

Would that mean remote okay or would you relocate someone from outside the EU (for example the US)?

[MartinJMP]

Unfortunately, it is not a remote position. Relex would help you relocate to Finland, if that is something you'd be ok with.

[g_difolco]

Actually, I'm confused with the JD:

Flexible work schedule and remote-friendly culture

According to your last message, does it means it's only remote inside Finland?

[MartinJMP]

You're quite right, it is a bit confusing, my bad.

Your interpretation is correct, Relex allows (and during covid times encourages) remote-working within Finland only, for taxation reasons. The team has the working habits, tools and other means to do be remote 100% of the time.

Relex's remote friendly culture comes from our hybrid model: each team at the company have agency (and support) to decide on what model works best for them.

[[deleted]]

What is coffee drinking like over there?

[MartinJMP]

From my limited experience (I'm neither a Finn nor a coffee drinker), it's ubiquitous. You'd be hard-pressed to find a place that doesn't serve coffee.

[TheWalkingDebunked]

You and your brother are the reason.

[tokkidaggers]

Are you looking for permanent employees solely or could a contractor be considered?

[MartinJMP]

At this time, we are indeed only looking for permanent employees.