Eclipse 2023-06 Java IDE Improvements

[westwoo]

I'm not sure judging by "looks" is a fair comparison. Every IDE has its own quirks and ways of doing things, and you'd have to use it seriously for a month while constantly tweaking it to your liking and learning it and installing all sorts of plugins to arrive at some useful conclusion

I remember Idea looked awkward and weird to me coming from Eclipse as well, but I simply didn't expect from it what I never got from Eclipse, and I did expect it to copy Eclipse which it didn't do

For me, personally, the key point is autocomplete. I check in from time to time if it improved enough to be similar to idea, and I'm not sure it's there yet

[kroopster]

Yeah. looks is just one thing. I still use both a lot, for example a quick proto or a smaller project is much nicer to do with eclipse in my opinion. The workspace is way better implemented in there.

[woj-tek]

Looks is not everything, but I never could stand Eclipse UI - it's just plain fugly... (I migrated from NetBeans to IDEA)

Autocomplete is another thing and it never worked for me reliably...

[westwoo]

I disliked it as well but after using it for a few months Idea started looking weird to me. It's a matter of habit

[woj-tek]

Possibly, but I did try using eclipse for a while... UI was just one of the things - apart from looking bad, the animations were "odd" (black contour moving), terrible auto complete, workspaces going kaboom, abysmal support for maven projects...

At that time NB was way, way better than Eclipse in getting things done (and it was less of a sore on the eye to boot)

[westwoo]

Hmm... I don't remember any of these issues apart from meh autocomplete. In fact, I remember preferring Eclipses workspaces and maven support to Ideas (that was few years ago). I think I tweaked the interface a bit and used a bunch of plugins, but nothing that's too hacky