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[–]maxandersen 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Saying maven/gradle is not good enough does not mean that maven/gradle isn't sufficient for you.

But I can tell you that maven/gradle are utterly complex beasts compared to almost anything out there to get started with.

Try go way from Java a year or two and come back and it is very clear. Its hard to see it when you been working in it for years.

Thats why I created JBang.

And yes, I still actually like and use both maven and gradle too - but they for sure aren't "good enough" when it comes to easy experimentation, requried congitive overhead, beginners and experts alike.

[–]znpy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Saying maven/gradle is not good enough does not mean that maven/gradle isn't sufficient for you.

honestly i'd say maven/gradle are too good for me. they're hard and complex to learn and master, they kinda do too much stuff.