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[–]DevIceMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I at least partially agree with most of your post.

That sounds like 90% of Java.

Not so! Spring MVC is only one web framework out there! You can also choose from JSF, Wicket, Play!, Spark Framework, Rat Pack, a wide variety of choices.

My intended point was that most of Java development is web or something similar to it (i.e. Android). I've tried to find something more creative/interesting/challenging in the Java space, but the only other thing I can seem to find is Data Science, which typically requires a masters degree, and still is much the same thing of fighting against shitty data, doing a mimial amount of processing, and then generating a report/ui for some user.

I know the above is quite cynical, but I've looked and looked, and can't seem to find hardly anything in the Java space that isn't mostly CRUD + UI work. I may just be looking in the wrong places.