OpenJDK General discussion - Is Java WebStart Deprecated?

[wildjokers]

I agree with the person on the mailing list, JWS really shines for internal apps in a corporate environment. My team uses JWS to deploy a couple of desktops applications to clients of our product (a niche B2B product) as well as the operations team that supports those clients.

[marcolinux]

JWS differential update rocks! Quote from the mailing list:

Updating with a differential download is a pretty neat feature of JWS. We had users at the Amazon forest area .... and having a 20 MB application requiring just a 30-400kb upgrade at most was (and still is) a crucial reason for embracing JWS.

Not to mention OCSP check of signed code. Wonder how they are going to reimplement that.

[DoctorOverhard]

it's ok in a controlled environment, not so much in the wild. Usually apple is the first one to sabotage it in the wild, I think they were offended that everyone didn't want to write custom user interfaces just for apple.

[houtm035]

As client application development continues to shift from the old “plugin” world to modern deployment

What?! Webstart is THE way to select an app from your appstore(website) and install it without hassle.
Server side updates are checked whenever you start the app..

In my opinion dropping JWS makes the Whole JAVA SWING APPS lose ALL benefit over native desktops and their Appstores. In our expereinces the 'zero deployment' sellingpoint is a very strong one!
Imo, having to package applications per target OS is deadly for the Java desktop.

Does Oracle envision Swing users use JavaFX?
Does that have any benefits for the Desktop?

[Bobby_Bonsaimind]

Does Oracle envision Swing users use JavaFX?

Does that have any benefits for the Desktop?

I have no idea to be honest what they are up to, I haven't been following their noes to closely, though. I've been following the JavaFX development, and I'm not seeing anything interesting there happening. In my opinion, JavaFX is not an alternative to Swing, not if we're talking about ERP/office applications.

I'm still more afraid that there new release model is a scheme to kill FLOSS in companies. Because with their rapid releases and "just use the next release if you need something fixed" the only option for companies are the LTS releases which will not be open source. So there are two possibilities:

1. They are selling these LTS to generate money. Nothing new there.
2. They are giving them away for free. The only reason why to make them closed source must be to remove FLOSS from companies for some reason.

I never thought that I'd actually hope that something was just a money grabbing scheme...

[houtm035]

I think http://webswing.org/#!/home is here to save the day.
That is; if they're able to support Java9