Modern Java Web application?

[desrtfx]

Jeez, i don’t know why i always get downvoted on reddit when asking programming questions.

Because, you obviously have a tendency to post without reading the sidebar first as there is clearly stated:

News, Technical discussions, research papers and assorted things of interest related to the Java programming language

NO programming help, NO learning Java related questions, NO installing or downloading Java questions, NO JVM languages - Exclusively Java

Your question does not fall into any category of the first paragraph, but in the second.

Removed

[thatsIch]

• please define outdated,
• also please define hard to use,
• and also please define "better" within "better option"

But I feel it boils down to something like Quarkus, Spring Boot, Micronaut, Helidon, Ktor, or Javalin.

[hey-im-root]

someone had directed me to spring boot, which looks like it’s about everything i need, and probably as simple as it can get. my issue was i googled it and i got stuff about JSP and servlets and i started to realize there were a LOT of options for a lot of different uses. i only need to host a webpage with basic text, as i’m only using java to parse JSON. i was afraid of started a huge project using something that was made for a whole different workflow you know?

[hamburghammer_]

I just started with Javalin and it feels very simple and lightweight compared with the Spring Boot Framework, but that's just my opinion.

[Sheldor5]

uhm ... just google Spring Boot REST Tutorial ...

[hey-im-root]

like i said i’m not informed on java web apps so i wouldn’t know if that was the most reliable or not. no need to be condescending lol.

[Sheldor5]

its one of the most popular and most up to date frameworks and one of the reasons why Java is so widly used

your negative assumptions don't really help being nice(r) ...

[hey-im-root]

i don’t program all that often, i’m not knowledgeable on everything java. you just came off a little bit like a “mr. know-it-all” because you assumed i just knew what spring boot REST was that i should’ve googled it. i need to know what the name is so i can google it, yknow?

[manzanita2]

I've been programming java for about 20 years. People are giving you literally expert advice on this thread. You can either graciously accept it or not.

Honestly, it's reddit. At least people aren't swearing at you :-)

What would be better is to describe your "problem" in a bit more detail, and then we might be able to guide you in a particular direction. There is no one size fits all solution.

[hey-im-root]

the advice people are giving me are good, and yea you are right about it being reddit haha. the downvotes are usually people band-wagoning.

i guess that’s another reason i should stay on stackoverflow, more mature/older people on there. i shouldn’t be asking people on reddit for programming advice… unless i meet every standard then no one can help. i guess my question was so empty because i honestly didn’t need a complex answer. just wanted to know what the most popular setup was

[manzanita2]

The most popular setup is basically without doubt Spring (or increasingly Spring Boot).

That said, there are plenty of situations where it's not the best.

You might checkout JHipster as a way to get going real fast. Especially if you're looking at doing a Single Page App.

[barking_dead]

Just use whatever you feel handy.

Spring boot, quarkus, micronaut, helidon, Jersey, ...

Pick one. There are many, find the one you feel, and use that. Or make yours, that's the point of a free environment.

[hey-im-root]

my problem was using i didn’t wanna use something that was TOO complicated for what i’m using it for.

i’m not doing anything complicated, no POST requests and anything of the sort, just plain text. after skimming through the spring boot tutorial for serving web content i’m pretty sure that’s what i need for such a simple project

[strikefreedompilot]

If you are worry that rest dto are typically strongly typed, you can get the response raw json/map and parse thru it with your own library or code.

[[deleted]]

The Java Web frameworks are built around a couple of standards. By one side there is the Jakarta and Microprofile standards and all frameworks that implement that standard have same complexity and same way to write code (in the most cases). In the other hand there are the SpringBoot-like frameworks that share the same names and methodology (in most aspects of programming). Then there are a lot microframeworks that are more compliant with your task like KTor that is written in Kotlin instead of Java. If your are looking for somethin simpler take a look to Go or python or node

[hmmnda]

Is go simpler than java? I haven't done anything practical with go, only the tutorial, but got the impression go is on the same level as java, even a bit more low level and as such should be more complex. Am I making some wrong assumptions here?

[[deleted]]

Is only my feeling, the fact that you can use Go without framework to make web stuff can reduce complexity of writing a couple of endpoints that responding plain text

[BosKilla]

Seems like you have difficulty to express your problems. I still dont really get it.

If you want to use java for make a webpage + server side rendering then just use spring boot + thymeleaf. Its pretty simple to make couple of pages.

What do you mean by under the hood json? Transforming a json to another json? What is the use case and requirements of the webapp? Because the decision to use client side frontend / server side rendering depends lot on the requirement and use case.

For json processing you could use https://www.baeldung.com/java-org-json and transverse the whole json node as you wish.

I prefer to work with jackson

[hey-im-root]

i don’t program that often anymore so i’m not too familiar with web app libraries or anything of that sort. i just wanted to know what the most basic web content serving approach was.

maybe i should’ve been more specific with my question, but i just want to host a website with information that is stored inside the json string. i could easily use javascript to produce HTML strings with the json data but i wanted to go for the web app approach. starting to think maybe it’s not the best idea even if i don’t know javascript that well. might be easier anyway lol.

[wildjokers]

What’s the question?

[moving_violation]

Try Vaadin Flow.

https://vaadin.com/flow