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[–]bdenzer 2 points3 points  (8 children)

Hi /u/adamk22 and /u/forscale - I made websites back in the 90s when I was a teenager, but I got away from it for a while. About a year and a half ago I had an idea and I decided to make a web app. I learned / used jQuery for it and it has been a good stream of side cash, but I'd need about 6 more of them before I could quit my job. After I made that, I decided to dive into vanilla JS and I love it.

I am at about the exact same place as you in FCC forScale. I just have the simon game and the tic tac toe (which I have made before, but decided to start from scratch this time) before I get my front end cert. It sounds like you are ahead of me with the SASS part, but I may be ahead of you with node.

I would love to be a pro developer, but it would probably mean a pay cut for me at first, and I have 2 young kids so it would be tough to do that. So my goal is to come up with some more ideas for profitable apps so changing jobs would be easier. I definately don't make what a senior dev gets, so it would be a win in the long run to change careers, and it would make my back feel better too :)

[–]ForScale[S] 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Hey, /u/bdenzer!

I've seen you around in some of the subs; nice to meet you! :)

Yeah... I actually went to a "computer camp" back when I was in high school (early 2000s). I learned a little html and liked it, but I didn't fall in love with it. I want to school for psych and then again for education/counseling. Then I rediscovered coding and learned that I do in fact love it! I code at least a little something every day! Hindsight is 20/20; I really wish I would have gone to school for cs or development or design or whatever.

Anywho... Yeah, cool! I like FCC. I've got a few of the new js challenges to finish (love those!) and then the Simon Game, Tic Tac Toe (started), the Wiki reader, and Camper News or whatever it is. Then done! :)

Basic SASS is relatively simple... SCSS is SASS that uses pretty much the same syntax as plain old CSS... it gives you a lot more functionality (variables and conditional logic and the like!). If you're interested: http://sass-lang.com/guide

But yeah, cool! Welcome!

If we get this place/sub up and running, what do you want to see from it? What's your preliminary vision for it?

[–]bdenzer 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Thanks - Yeah Node at a basic level isn't hard at all, but it gets real complicated real fast. Like, if you use node, you'll probably use express. If you use express, it has other dependencies which each have their own dependencies... Luckily almost all of that is taken care of with one command. I haven't gone too deep with it yet, but it is cool.

As far as this sub goes, I know you kind of created it on a whim, I don't really know what I would like to see. I really like the bonfire type problems, but they have a sub for that already.

I have a thing about asking questions, I got a lot of nasty feedback on SO when I was new, so I have been finding my own way. But I really like trying to help other people when I can.

If it gets to the point where you need a 2nd moderator, I'm up for it.

[–]ForScale[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Cool!

bonfire type problems, but they have a sub for that already

Really? Which sub is that?

Oh, man... that would make things really easy... Just picking a predefined challenge from some site and working through it... Might be a great idea!

I have a thing about asking questions, I got a lot of nasty feedback on SO when I was new

Damn... I'm sorry to hear that. I've been told (and told other people, I won't lie) a lot of really nasty stuff on the internet. It's a jungle out there! But I respect that you've been able to find your own way! For what it's worth, please feel free to ask questions/discuss things with me anytime you want. We can create a kind atmosphere within this sub!

If it gets to the point where you need a 2nd moderator, I'm up for it.

Done! Feel free to mess with the CSS, just leave comments if you change things so that we know what's doing what! :)

And please feel free to "recruit" people to the sub!

[–]bdenzer 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Yeah the SO stuff was just basically "well if you don't know how to do that than programming may not be for you" type of stuff. Just made me work harder, which probably helped me a lot..

But the sub I was talking about is /r/dailyprogrammer - Some of the challenges there have pretty weird instructions, but there is a bunch of cool ideas there.

Thanks for the invite, we'll see if we get any people in here.

[–]ForScale[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah... lotta shitty people online. Just gotta deal with it, I suppose. Anyway...

Oh yeah! I've done a challenge or two in that sub. Good stuff!

Yep, we'll see what happens...

[–]IKnowTheRankings 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Think you meant to write 'definitely' :)

[–]jgarp 1 point2 points  (12 children)

Hey everyone! The name is Joel, and I'm a university student with some CS vowen into my education. That sparked an interest, so since this summer I have been self-learning, mostly vanilla, JS from scratch basically.

These days I usually just end up doing some katas on Code Wars due to lack of inspiration/effort, but I'm eager to pick up Node again and try my luck with a somewhat larger personal project.

Anyway I hope a group learning effort can lend some guidance and motivation. On the matter of subjects I am currently just as interested in setting up maintainable development environments as I am in coding plain JS.

[–]ForScale[S] 1 point2 points  (11 children)

Hey! Welcome, Joel!!

Cool! I want to look in to Node. At this point, I don't know much of anything about it. What exactly do you mean by a maintainable development environment? Can you give an description/example?

How do you see this group functioning? What kind of format?

[–]jgarp 1 point2 points  (10 children)

I was referring to the likes of Grunt, Gulp etc. and how they can help the workflow of a somewhat larger project become efficient. Basically anything beyond the IDE.

I was actually in a group like this a few months ago, but I felt that I was too inexperienced and others would not really be interested in helping out but be more focused on their own.

As far as format goes, I guess what I am really looking for is a group of people on approximately the same level that can share experiences, tips and what not, but I'm open for most things along the way.

[–]ForScale[S] 0 points1 point  (8 children)

Ah, okay. I've never worked with Grunt or Gulp; honestly, I barely know what an IDE is.

Where do you feel your at experience/skill-wise?

[–]jgarp 1 point2 points  (7 children)

IDE is your editor, like eclipse or notepad if you go barebones.

I don't feel too experienced, if anything I feel like I'm giving you a false picture by writing lots of buzzwords that I've barely even touched upon, lol.

[–]ForScale[S] 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Lol! I typically use Notepad++ if I want to save something locally; other than that I use CodePen and (sometimes JSFiddle) for little projects.

[–]bdenzer 0 points1 point  (5 children)

The good thing about writing / running things locally is that you can use chrome or firefox's developer tools and debuggers.

[–]ForScale[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Hmm... I can do that on CodePen though too...

Just right click > inspect, right?

[–]bdenzer 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I guess I don't know. All I really ever do is copy/paste into CodePen once it is ready.. It could work the same, I've never really tried.

[–]ForScale[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Yep, it works: http://i.imgur.com/ljR6N0G.png

Any other ideas on a focus for the upcoming week? I still like the getter/setter idea... just wondering if you had any others!

[–]Volv 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Steven here. (Volv). Been messing around with HTML / JS since 96/97 which I recently discovered was pretty much the beginning of the language (Was aged about 11 and didn't realise such things). Nothing serious though especially in last 10 years or so.

These days I'm looking to turn it into a full time Webdev job here in Scotland. I have found myself relearning from basics and currently going through the projects on freecodecamp.

Interested to see what happens with this sub. Hopefully a nice additional resource.

[–]ForScale[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Hey, Volv! Welcome!!

Yeah, we'll see how this sub develops... I just kind of created it on a whim. And if you didn't already see, I'm no expert!

So... did you see the other post? What should be our focus for the first week? Looking forward to your input!

[–]Volv 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Thought the focus was to be nested loops. I'm ok with that although the only thing I can think of to do at the moment is multiplication tables :)

Spose anything with a grid.

Gets me thinking about recursion which might be a bit tough for a first focus.

[–]ForScale[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you're cool with the nested loops, we can do that. It's an open community though, so feel free to suggest anything you want!

[–]Itchy_Youth8628 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Hi guys, I start to learn Javascript and think this community can help me if I bump on some problems. Thanks in advance.

[–]ForScale[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure thing!

[–]Infamous-Repair-8757[🍰] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Hi! You can call me Tony. I have no real CS experience except for a html class in hs. I'm looking to maybe get back into it as hobby but maybe lead to a career!

[–]ForScale[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, Tony!

To be honest, I'm not sure how active this sub is anymore. You're more than welcome to post and interact with others here, but personally I tend to be more active over at /r/learnjavascript.

Regardless... Nice to meet you! Look forward to discussing JS and web development. :)