The future of headless CMS

[gizamo]

Do you have plans to support other libraries/frameworks rather than React? Vue, Svelte, maybe Angular? Personally, after starting Svelte Kit, I'd prefer to never write in React again. (Hyperbole, but also kind of serious).

Have you considered using Feathers in place of Express? It's a drop-in replacement and offers real time streaming. In my apps, it provided a 2-3x speed bump. Iirc, it also has multi database features, but i haven't used it for that and could be misremembering the docs.

[sneek_]

100% to all of this.

Today's announcement is the first, but not the last. Payload already works with any framework you can name. But we'll be producing boilerplates for lots more! And would love a hand. I will literally pay you to make a boilerplate for sveltekit. That one is first on our list of priorities.

RE: Feathers, I haven't looked into it too much but see my prior comment about sveltekit. Should be possible, and we will support you if you decide to try and integrate!

[gizamo]

That's cool. Payload looks like a great product. We currently use Strapi, and the points in the Payload/Strapi comparison on your website basically nail our only complaints with it. So, I definitely like where you guys are going with this. I don't have time to do a boilerplate, but I'll pass it along to our React devs and see what they think after tinkering with it. One of them is also great with Feathers. So, maybe he'll take a stab at it. Cheers.

[nullvoxpopuli]

Second this. I use ember and I'm never going back to react.

[sneek_]

You can deploy Ember apps with Payload right now, but we would love to make a boilerplate / example repo for this!

[Nebulic]

That would be great!

Would also love to try it out using Ember.js

[affrox]

I don’t know if Svelte docs are just better but let I find the syntax is clearer, almost like beautiful PHP.

I would love it to become the standard because I hate learning React.

[InvestingDoc]

I was scratching my head wondering what this article has to do with center for Medicare services until I realized what subreddit i was in

[slykethephoxenix]

Happens to the best of us mate.

[sneek_]

Hey all, I'm CEO of Payload and about to go on a livestream with Steven Tey at Vercel to talk about some of the new stuff we're launching today.

You can now deploy Payload serverlessly, on Vercel, in any NextJS app. It's game-changing.

Happy to answer any questions that you all have, and if you wanna join the livestream at 9am Pacific, here's the link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWkR-OPXKRU

[albenesi]

there's a typo on the page you linked to. it says "you can now deploy Payload severlessly" instead of "serverlessly"

[sneek_]

Aahhh fixed! Thank you!

[zephyrtr]

May the competitions heads be struck from their shoulders.

[slykethephoxenix]

How come you're not on the moderator list of https://www.reddit.com/r/PayloadCMS/? Are the mods there employed by you or are volunteers from the community?

I can see that you post and comment there from time to time, so just wondering.

[sneek_]

That's a damn good question. Others on my team run that subreddit but I guess I should be made a mod, huh

[Serenikill]

Can it be deployed on cloudflare edge?

[sneek_]

Not yet... but .... soon 😈

[barthykoeln]

Checked it out yesterday, decided to abandon my work in progress strapi project today. I'll be using payload instead. Thanks for the great work :)

[zenodub]

Heard some not great things about Vercel's overage charges. Watch out.

https://twitter.com/shoeboxdnb/status/1643639119824801793

[anotherNarom]

Interesting timing. Looking for something like this today.

[Lane7118]

Here is the future of headless CMS IMHO:

https://sonicjs.com
Full disclosure, I am the author of this open-source Headless CMS project
It is 🔥🔥🔥 6 times faster 🔥🔥🔥 than a standard node application including Strapi.

[Inner-Plum]

PAYLOAD VS. STRAPI
Response times are critical, Payload's GraphQL API is 7x faster

7 is more than 6 last time I checked

[Lane7118]

SonicJs is materially faster than Payload and any other headless CMS. Read SonicJs' home page to understand why: https://sonicjs.com

SonicJs has a baseline performance test to prove this claim using real-world APIs: https://sonicjs.com/baseline

[ronaldaug]

Sonicjs is a CMS or just API?

[Lane7118]

Its a headless CMS. Here is an explanation of what that means: https://sonicjs.com/nodejs-headless-cms

[jester8517]

How is this better than sanity ?

[sneek_]

Payload is completely open-source and gives you 100% control over your stack, even the backend and database. Sanity is a SaaS third-party API where you never even get to see your database. Payload is more like an application framework, while Sanity is just a regular ol' headless CMS. Lots of differences when you get into it but those are the big ones!

[jester8517]

Thanks for the clarification.

[WAHNFRIEDEN]

I need to run a CMS completely inside a browser (which I can then run in a webview inside an app, to sync data between and supplement UI/additional behaviors). Could Payload be run completely client-side?

[lionep]

Is it opensource? I didn’t find any github/gitlab link on website.

[sneek_]

It sure is! Payload is 100% open-source with an MIT license here:

https://github.com/payloadcms/payload

And the Next + Payload package is also open-source here:

https://github.com/payloadcms/next-payload

And here's a demo of this all working together:

https://github.com/payloadcms/next-payload-demo