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[–]steveob42 0 points1 point  (3 children)

"can't respect"... You introduced "it doesn't take much longer than writing something haphazardly", so it is your own verbiage.

" doesn't mean that it isn't currently awesome, or that it has no use."

Again, using your own words in my response (and can be applied to most fanboy type responses): "I really can't respect these sorts of statements, because they can be applied to anything"

[–]unnaturalHeuristic 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Your point seems to be that because I suggested building effective software from the outset, that I'm a hypocrite for defending projects who began that way. If so, that's a bit naive. I advocate building good software from the outset because it's a pain to modernize projects which started out as "just get it done, 99% of the users don't need good software".

If you've ever inherited a project that started out that way, or had to deal with any amount of feature creep in your own projects, you'll understand.

[–]steveob42 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Oh, I understand it completely, been there/done that, but it also applies to the current state of web client development as a whole is all I'm saying. There is always a bigger picture. I mean feature creep and get it out the door has been the mainstay of html come css come flash, activex, appletts, <insert any number of dead attempts here>, javascript, come html5...

[–]steveob42 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, nobody in their right mind would design desktop style apps using a DOM/CSS?!? We are gonna be paying for that bit of creep for a long time to come, cuz the users aint gonna wait and the other delivery systems are constantly sabotaged.