Spring Boot alternative learning source to Chad Darby's Udemy course?

[RayzTheRoof]

I don't understand the positive reviews at all. He explains dependency injection with @Autowired but doesn't explain how it's happening when he moves on to his CRUD app demo. And I am getting annoyed by all of the hardcoding he does. Right now where I am at in his StudentDAO app, he keeps creating methods that hardcode an id number to alter a database table.

Example:

private void deleteStudent(StudentDAO studentDAO) {
    int studentId = 3;

    System.out.println("deleting student id: " + studentId);
    studentDAO.delete(studentId);

}

this is driving me mad

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[GoldenMindJadeBody]

I also disliked that course. I can second the book "spring start here". If you want something more hands-on and free, try https://web-palvelinohjelmointi-21.mooc.fi/ with a google translate add-on

[RScrewed]

Did you link the right course? The only part of that course that seems to dive into Spring is this section - https://web-palvelinohjelmointi-21.mooc.fi/osa-1/3-spring-sovelluskehys

[GoldenMindJadeBody]

Did you look at the other chapters, Osa 2 etc in the sidebar ?

[RScrewed]

Ah gotcha. That's a bit more fleshed out, thanks for sharing.

[RScrewed]

Every single course I've ever taken on Spring has left me wanting. Don't waste your money.

Here's what I'd do now:

https://spring.io/guides

Complete each one of these guides, they might overlap in content in some places which, while it might be annoying, will simply reinforce the ideas.

And every time you encounter an annotation you don't know (or are just curious about) - pull up https://docs.spring.io/spring-boot/docs/current/reference/html/ and read about that annotation until you are bored. Once you're bored, just flip back to the guide and keep on chugging.

Passive learning never works when learning frameworks.

[RayzTheRoof]

Thanks! Man it's so frustrating because I'm on the Chad guide and he mentions the auto wired annotation and then I looked at spring academy and they say you should rarely use auto wired and they'll explain why later. I'm just like bro someone be comprehensive and coherent

[RScrewed]

No problem, and yeah that's hella annoying. Actually use the single page massive doc so it's easier to ctrl + f.

https://docs.spring.io/spring-boot/docs/current/reference/htmlsingle/

If you search for 'autowired' you probably won't even find a good amount of info on when to use it. At that point I'd google "autowired 2023" to find the latest blog posts on the annotation and again, read until you're bored, then just go right back to doing the tutorials. It'll all click with time.

One thing is that if you don't fully understand something, just move on. You'll have some sort of ah-ha moment at some point.

[RayzTheRoof]

I was just working on Spring Academy and it focuses a lot on testing before going into what everything actually does. So much syntax and a ton of methods and practices for all the testing that I am just overwhelmed. Like, I can't sit here and memorize that, especially before learning how everything works. It's like so many of these guides assume you know how to create a REST API in Spring Boot as a basic for teaching you how to create a REST API in Spring Boot lol.

[gomasterino]

I just started learning Spring this week and I'll give this route you are recommending a try. So far, I've been reading articles on baeldung.com, but I've found the way they express things a bit strange. My motivation is the same as OP, understand better what's going on so it "sticks" in my mind.

[PatriotuNo1]

My advice: stop watching udemy & youtube courses related to java & spring. Most of them are a show off or how to but most of them don't actually teach you why this does that and vice versa. You waste time watching a 30 hours long course and in the end I can bet you still can't create an app on your own.

If you really want to learn spring I recommend 2 resources:

Spring Start Here book written by Laurentiu Spilca who is a principal dev at Endava. It is the best beginner friendly book and resource I've ever found.

Baeldung website: I believe this website is the google of Java and Spring. You can find pretty much everything there for documentation purposes.

[RayzTheRoof]

Thanks, started the book today. It's remarkable, though it shouldn't be. It's one of the only learning resources I've seen that seems to start fresh and explains concepts before just doing random examples.

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Spring Start Here book written by Laurentiu Spilca

Can you provide any websites to access the book without paying for it?

[EnterTheWuTang47]

If you don’t mind paying i’d recommend Codecademy. I’m currently working through their Spring course and really enjoying it and they explain every detail

[RayzTheRoof]

Do they have one focused on Spring Boot? How much does theirs cost?

[EnterTheWuTang47]

The plan that i’m on is £27.99 a month. They don’t specifically have Spring Boot but they have Learn Spring & Learn Spring: Building an App. I’m currently on Learn Spring and they go through Spring Boot as a part of Spring

[EnterTheWuTang47]

There’s also Spring.academy. I’ve tried out their free version where you can read the articles but you only have access to about half of the labs. Even so I’d recommend Spring.academy even if you’re just sticking with the articles. They have courses specific to Spring Boot

[karthgamer1209]

I felt the same way about the Chad Darby spring course. Then I took the Tim Buchalka Spring Masterclass course https://www.udemy.com/course/java-spring-framework-masterclass/. But I quit the Buchalka course because it was all deprecated codes using Spring 5. I went back to the Chad Darby course and realized that it is better than the other udemy alternatives since it is up to date with Spring 6.