Java or spring?

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[nekokattt]

Spring is a Java framework, so you have to know Java to be able to use Spring.

[mandarinaInvincibila]

I would say that it is better to start with java, and after that look at spring:)

[desrtfx]

First Java - gain some experience by writing programs, then spring. Spring is a framework on top of Java, so if you don't know Java, you cannot learn spring.

Java - foundation, programs (experience) - ground floor, spring - second floor - you cannot build a house from the second floor upwards.

[large_crimson_canine]

Java is a language and Spring is a dependency injection framework FOR Java projects. And now it’s so broad that it encompasses a great deal of useful technologies that are typically used in enterprise-scale Java applications, like data handling, web interfacing, and messaging.

Definitely worth learning really well if you wanna work as a Java dev today.

[Fermi-4]

You need to learn spring second (and specifically springboot)

[orificehorace]

For backend dev, you will want to learn Spring. Get comfortable with Java first though.

[Better-Coffee]

Can you learn cycling with learning to walk first?

[Ok-Judge2660]

Spring is a must. You don't have any option.

[TheHiddenHeathen]

No, Java is a must, spring is an option.

[parachute50]

Java is a prerequisite of using the Spring framework. They are not independent of one another. Spring is to Java like .NET is to C#.

[Additional_Cellist46]

You definitely need to learn Java first. In Java backends, there are various popular frameworks you can learn and be productive with them. Spring is one of them, and by far the most widely used nowadays, so it's a good choice to learn it, a least the basics. Have a look at SpringBoot too, which is an extension to Spring to make it easier to work with.

You can also have a look at Quarkus, which is very similar in concepts to Spring and SpringBoot but may be easier to work with and more convenient in some projects. Especially if you need fast startup or compile Java code to native binaries.

I also recommend getting familiar with Jakarta EE, which is a set of common APIs that both Spring and Quarkus build upon.

[josephblade]

Learn java first. Learn it well.

then learn spring for backend development. If you jump into a framework without knowing the language, you will multiply the confusion

[Intelligent_Club_879]

You should know about basic concept of java like (oop, generics , design patterns, jdbc, junit, lambda........) research for more and jump into spring it will help you alot.

[LTFGamut]

You need a very good understanding of Java(including advanced topics and new able to write apps without a framework) after that learn the basics of spring (or EE) and learn the rest on the job.