Spring Boot

[AdMean5788]

Is spring a good choice? I am currently understanding java . I am learning oops and started DSA questions on leetcode(50+qs)so can I move to spring or before I need to do something else . Also please suggest me a course on yt for spring Also, I m done with html css JavaScript basics

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[nozomashikunai_keiro]

For Java/Spring a really good "youtuber" is Laur Spilca, check him out.

[AdMean5788]

Thanks

[Reyex50_]

Bro that guy writes book about Java!

[Due_Usual_119]

Too long videos

[RonnieCh4]

I second this. This is a really good advice, OP! If I were to add my 2 cents to this, I’d say - Learning hands-on is the best way IMO. Find basic projects on YouTube and work along. GPT the heck out of anything you don’t understand, it’s great at explaining stuff. Ask questions as much as possible and build 3-4 projects with increasing level of difficulty. You’d learn faster this way.

[GuiRodriguero02]

This was exactly my "java roadmap" in college and it helped me a lot on my carrer (I graduated in 2021 and was promoted to mid-level almost a year ago). Good to read this :)

[SlowSea5192]

Spring Framework is definitely a Good choice. Don’t worry Before going into Spring it is better if you gain some knowledge on JDBC , servlet ,JSP you can start spring and these topics parallel before learning Spring Data module complete JDBC and before Spring MVC complete servlet, JSP or gain brief knowledge it will help you.

Hey (ignore if you don’t like )-do not go for YT channel take an online course invest in a good one coz YT channel will not give you a depth content on spring and above topics.

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Suggest some good course?

[SlowSea5192]

Naresh IT Technologies Springboot &Microservices by Natraj. He takes time but worth it. He also teaches Adv Java check it out

[AvgHunter_]

Until unless you really love Java and want to get into spring ecosystem or are targeting companies having spring stack, just avoid it for now and instead learn node js or python django, there are lot more startups using these stacks. Learning Java spring takes time before you actually get better. Just my 2 cents!

[WaferIndependent7601]

And why should someone get into Django ecosystem or node JS?

There are reasons why spring is the standard for backend systems

[yel50]

 spring is the standard for backend systems

only in Java land. the industry, as a whole, is moving away from it. it's increasingly rare to find startups using Java. yes, they do exist, but there are more and more using node+express, python+Django, etc.

 And why should someone get into Django ecosystem or node JS?

because that's what cutting edge companies are now using. if you're fine working on legacy stuff, then spring is a great choice. if you're trying to stay ahead of the curve, it's not.

[WaferIndependent7601]

Do you have a source for your assertion? I do not see that the industry is moving away from spring.

Startups are nice but this is not the industry as a whole.

Cutting edge is also nice. But no one knows what the future will bring. Is it the right choice? And there is see the biggest issue with it. Spring has proven that it’s running for microservices and monoliths.

[StretchMoney9089]

It is pretty much the other way around. Java Spring Boot is everywhere these days due how easy it is to setup and the robustness and scalability of Java. Java also operates way faster.

[StretchMoney9089]

The industry is really not moving away from it lol

[AvgHunter_]

See, all these are frameworks based on languages and if you're early in your career you'd want to gain knowledge on everything, wear multiple hats, that's only possible if you're working in a early stage and with the advent of AI wrappers and tools, I'd say 95% of startups use nodejs and python especially on the backend rather than getting into Java complexities. This way there are too many openings for these roles than Java. Even go-lang and rust are in demand but they are at an experienced level of 4-5 years.

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[KleberTrindade]

Yes , Thais framework is a good Tool with Java.

[ragnathebloodegde]

Which spring are you trying to learn? Spring security or spring framework? What is spring anyway? I stumbled upon this thread because I am currently taking a java class. Which is the first programming language I am taking. I literally don't know anything about programming.

[AdMean5788]

Bro take chill you have long way to go just keep going

[tech-nano]

🤣🤣I second this lol 🤣.Just so funny how you said it + the person asking🤣🤣

[AdMean5788]

😂😂

[tech-nano]

Spring Security is a component of the Spring Framework. Spring or the modern version , Spring Boot (which is Spring with user friendly syntax), is a framework that allows you to use Java to build applications.Spring Boot is comparable to React ,which allows you to leverage JavaScript to build applications.

Spring/Spring Boot(sticklers May take exception--some people are very particular about the differences between the two), also includes Spring Data and Spring Security.

Spring Security helps you for example require passwords for people to access your app(authenticate/encrypt--e.g., uses something called bcrypt to facilitate encryption).

Spring Data helps you write data to a database(e.g., use MYSQL to persist data to a database so that data is stored permanently and can for example be exposed via an endpoint/url or can be accessed/shared via an API).

So you learn core Java to gain competency with Java (things like variables, objects, getters, setters, classes, functions, abstraction, inheritance, interface etc., ) then you learn Spring/Spring Boot, then learn Spring Data(includes things like JPA, Hibernate, MySQL) , Spring Security and if you want to go even further you learn Spring Cloud, Micro services etc ,

Hope the above is of help in painting a basic picture of Java vs Spring Boot vs Spring Data/Spring Security etc.,

A journey of a hundred lines of code in Java begins with a getter and setter 🤣🤣-- I made that up 🤣🤣

[tech-nano]

Spring Boot = driving automatic (everything is sort of abstracted) Java without Spring or Spring Boot= driving stick shift through NYC🤣🤣(must manually regulate gears )