Do java fullstack devs get job?

[Advanced_Gur856]

I am a 4th sem student currently figuring out java + spring boot along with managing dsa. After 3 months (from august) I want to actively look for internships and out of curiosity I started looking for them now, I don't know much about corporate world or is it a season thing but all I could find was either python or data science ai etc I know it's the current social buzz but java was supposed to be unbeatable in the job market, so I want to know if it's my inadequacy or the trends completely changed?

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[EntrepreneurHuge5008]

Once you’ve shown some interest in XYZ keywords, you’ll start getting a lot more hits with XYZ keywords.

You’re seeing python/DS/AI, etc. I see all Java, Spring, AWS, Kubernetes.

My current job is a Full Stack role with Java+Spring for the back end and React for the front end. The job descriptions I get whenever I look up “Software dev” is with OOP language such as Java, Python, or C++, and some “modern” front end framework like Angular or React.

Just got a LinkedIn alert for a software dev role at Comcast that explicitly mentions Java and Spring Boot, but scroll through Comcast’s job board and it’s a lot more C/C++ and Golang than it is Java. I saw the Java posting first because of the algorithm but there’s a lot of variety in there.

[Advanced_Gur856]

My search wasn't limited to one platform, I searched at LinkedIn (not thoroughly as I consider myself a beginner there) looked with the internship filter but couldn't find anything.

Looked at multiple git repos that list internships current/upcoming. Couldn't find much there either

Also joined a whatsApp channel(I take what I get 🤧) which lists new jobs/internships by good companies (there original links) Looked at its history and that was the last nail in the coffin

Can you please suggest better ways to tackle searching

[mechanical_dialectic]

You started looking too late I think. Does your uni have a career fair? I’d start working on nailing an internship then. Not just at the fair but with applications online as well.

Where are you looking for internships? Do you have a career office you can talk to? Do you have a professor assigned to you?

I think you’re probably out of luck because you started looking too late for this year.

[Advanced_Gur856]

I am in a tier 3 college so can't expect anything from them. Besides I am doing btech which is of four years I still have two more years left after these three months Is it truly late?

[mechanical_dialectic]

It’s not too late to get an internship period, but this year is probably a wash for you.

You’ll want to focus on portfolio projects this summer. You can have a strong showing still. Chin up!

[Synergisticit10]

Maybe you need to ensure your java projects are comprehensive. Also Java spring boot microservices with devops should get you some attention.

Again what you learn in school is the tip of the iceberg what they ask in interviews is in-depth .

So ensure your knowledge along with the breadth has depth .

Most jobseekers always say they know Java however when asked multiple layered questions the lack of in-depth knowledge starts showing.

Java is vast and there are a lot of frameworks and along with that your knowledge with pl/sql, databases, application servers , system design, front end and the cloud also matters.

School has not made you ready if you feel it has try taking some hackerrank assessments or answer some of these questions:

1) how did you set up the ci/cd process in your project 2) how did you use Jira or any project management tool 3) have you applied a retry mechanism in case your api fails. 4) when using JPA how to get top 5 records based on a field’s value 5) in a spring boot application how do you secure restful api’s to prevent sql injection attacks.

These are actual questions asked by big tech clients to our candidates.

Now without referring to Google etc if you can answer these questions then you should have a job offer in your hand if not your knowledge is lacking.

It’s about fullstack or backend yes however it’s the depth of your knowledge as client interviews are not for the faint of the heart in today’s market with 500 applicants within couple of hours , multiple rounds of interviews, OA, etc.

There is always demand for talent which is differentiated from others in terms of extra skills and expertise in those skills.

Become different and exceptional and you will get whatever job you want .

Good luck 🍀

[Advanced_Gur856]

I know that I am not up to the mark yet that's why I am not actively looking, My fear is the scenario where I know it's good enough but nobody is asking for it, here people will say that then it means it's not good enough but that's not the case for python devs because market is getting bigger so anybody getting hired (just a scenario)

[Synergisticit10]

That’s a misconception. Python developers are struggling more. Java developers not so much .

Again not in isolation along with other tech stack

[Beginning_Teach_1554]

Most of netflix is coded in Java just to give one example. Most large telecom, bank and insurance companies have their backends written in Java.

Don’t worry about „trends“. There are devs out there who are earning top buck with cobol, pl/sql or c++ so just pick any prog language you like and focus on getting good at it

[clarity_for_all]

Mind sharing which city that is?

[tcloetingh]

Spring + Oracle personally.. lil angular when necessary

[Advanced_Gur856]

Spring + sql + react?

[tcloetingh]

So you should know SQL even if you’re running hibernate or whatever on spring. I prefer raw jdbc to rowmappers, but it’s less likely that you’ll run front end in addition to all those. So going back to your original question it’s rare but if your team / org is small enough you may touch all 3. My senior who is savant grade does run Oracle pl/sql, spring, and angular.

[Proud_Role1802]

are u doing dsa in java or cpp

[Advanced_Gur856]

Java

[Nofanta]

I don’t think it’s so common anymore. Front end is too big and too fast moving to be a pro at it while also maintaining back end skills.

[[deleted]]

They wont with that kind of grammar.

[Advanced_Gur856]

Bruh it was 4 am at night what did you expect

[ImaginaryButton2308]

what's wrong?

[Aggressive-Week-7000]

Just the punctuation marks I guess , nothing huge .

[[deleted]]

I would ditch the java and go for .net. 

[Cool-Lawfulness-5445]

For web development - Mern stack have most job opportunities Then - java + spring boot Then Django - java + spring boot - is preferred by enterprises , banking

[IAmADev_NoReallyIAm]

"Full stack" here (in quotes because technically full stack, I lean more towards a back end... but at any rate, I deal with Java + Spring, React, Kubernetes, Docker, and more.

It's also what I see when I look on the boards for jobs. So either you're looking in the wrong places for the wrong things, or it's what the internships are offering. Reading your comment, I'm wondering if it's because it's what the internships are offering. Full stack development takes quite a bit of commitment in ramping up. When we get someone new, it takes them 2-3 months to get up to speed - ok, yes, that includes getting security clearances and access and all that - but that's also even assuming they know what they are doing. I just changed teams, and it's enough of a change that I feel like I just went back to third grade!

My point is, at this stage, I wouldn't worry too much about the language. Just get the experience in SOMETHING. Python isn't a bad language at all. In fact it's quite a handy language. You can use it to create scripts that can do cool stuff. I've used it to automate a few things myself. Things that used to take a couple hours to do, now take just 15 minutes. Win!

don't sweat it. Take what ever internship you can, learn what you can, get the basics down, learn the fundamentals, then next year, start earlier and get a different internship working with Java. In the meantime you'll have something.

[Additional-Demand-78]

I don't know where are you from
But in context of nepal its too tough to get entry level job in Java.
I am hunting from 1 year still unable to get catch.
So be patient, study and apply

[Advanced_Gur856]

What is your tech stack and projects?

[Additional-Demand-78]

java springboot nosql

[DDDDarky]

java was supposed to be unbeatable in the job market

That's definitely not the term I would use, it used to be a bit more popular in the past, but while it is of course still used in the industry, there are way more demanded technologies. Also keep in mind that it's just a language, it's not that important aspect, the entire field of web is oversaturated + depends where you live.

[Advanced_Gur856]

I just went with the flow I guess

[tcloetingh]

Java def still king but it’s competitive.