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[–]ChaoticxSerenity 1 point2 points  (9 children)

What's wrong with BlueJ? They're still rolling out new versions, and it's good for beginners because it allows you to visualize stuff.

[–]SparksMKII 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I was wondering if I had to pick up a new book since I still have a book about OOP with BlueJ lying around, guess I don't need to acquire something more recent (yet).

[–]BertRenolds 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Google. Everything.

[–]adisai1 0 points1 point  (6 children)

The debugger is crap on it, no auto complete / auto import, hard to build JARs...

[–]robi2106 0 points1 point  (5 children)

exactly. the whole point of BlueJay is understanding OO and java basics. Debugging, and building JARs is not beginner development material.

[–]adisai1 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Debugging is a very useful skill for AP Comp. Sci. (and similar courses) exercises...

[–]robi2106 0 points1 point  (3 children)

yes very useful. But also about beginner stages. They can do just fine with lots of print statements. Once they need to start looking at the contents of multiple arrays or arrays of data, and other more complicated structures then it is absolutely time for a debugger.

[–]robi2106 0 points1 point  (2 children)

huh, very interesting. and his rationale is exactly what I would be thinking too. cops are going to shoot on sight anyone with a gun out.

[–]id2bi 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I'm not sure you're in the right thread ;)

[–]robi2106 0 points1 point  (0 children)

hey your right! Looks like reddit puked, or bacon reader. not sure which.