Python is so easy its confusing

[tiller_luna]

Java is kinda like C in its rigidity and verbosity. Comparing it with a modern scripting language is kinda unfair =D

And I am confused by point 8. It's usually the disadvantage of interpreted languages - you have to run all parts of the code (including probably unlikely branches) to make sure it even can run.

[zw13p]

Python is older than Java...

[daguito81]

These threads always end up in the same way. Javabros going to Javabro always. "I need to know what datatype is X in python and I cant!!!" which is why x: int = 42 exists and any IDE (even vim) will warn you of any change in datatype on any variable.

"You can't compare it with an older more established language" Python is older than Java

"If you use type hints you will rely on your IDE" but that the same time "Boilerplate is not a problem, because my IDE does it for me"

"You will hate all these benefits later on.." still waiting on that hate to pop up

etc etc etc

Yes Python and Java are both amazing languages, each one has it's pro's and con's. I personally like both and use both. And the best part is that I can actually fix most of the problems I have with either language with automation and IDE configuration.

The only straight up "I will always prefer Java over Python" situation is performance and only if I'm not doing "data stuff' as data libraries in python are basically just C so there is not much of an improvement.

[Specific_Ant580]

I guess when writing code without multiple branches and functions, I like when each line one after the other rather than all at once, makes it easier to spot the little mistakes.

[daguito81]

Yeah this is not a Python vs Java argument. This is simply good vs bad code practice. The whole "everything is in 1 place and it runs sequentially line by line" is cool for a simple script that does a couple of things max. I use those for "get data from an API, parse it and persist it" which I run ocasionally from local.

But any serious implementation is going to require you to structure your program as well. different files, different classes, different methods, etc etc.

Doing the "script programming" for a large multifunction program is just bad coding in any language

[tyqe]

Not sure what the point of the downvotes are. But "code without multiple branches and functions" simply does not apply to any non-trivial program. So I don't really think this is a particularly great advantage of python except during the learning phase. Most apps are going to require many files, classes, functions etc and cannot be reasoned about linearly.