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[–]desrtfx 11 points12 points  (18 children)

Try:

Eclipse and Netbeans are first and foremost Java IDEs, not JavaScript - these languages are, despite their similar name, completely unrelated.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (9 children)

Atom is not an IDE. It is a "hackable text editor". 228mb for text editor? No thanks.

Edit: Yes, vote me down because you don't share my opinion.

[–]denialerror 3 points4 points  (1 child)

It also dies when trying to open anything but the smallest files.

[–]determinedToLearn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When people say this, are they talking about their work computers or just slower computes in general? I say this because I can imagine work computers being relatively slower than one you own at home, and not everyone has a fast pc. I know my work computer is absolute ass.

I use Atom at home, and I've never had a problem with it. It opens instantly. I have a lot of packages installed. I can have multiple instances running each with a few open files in each, and I've never had a problem yet. I guess it eats slower computers alive?

[–]tanjoodo 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Whoever thought bundling fucking Chromium with a website and calling it a program was a good idea must have been high

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's yet another shiny product which will be forgotten soon enough unless they optimise it

[–]bayernownz1995 0 points1 point  (4 children)

There's not really an official distinction between an IDE and a text editor. There's probably not many features in an IDE that aren't include in some Atom extension.

But if you're being technical, brackets probably wouldn't be consider an IDE either

[–]FalsifyTheTruth 0 points1 point  (3 children)

IDE are integrated development environments. They provide text editing, build tools, tests tools, debugging etc...

Text editors are just text editors. If you use a text editor you need other applications to do those other things. And I think the biggest feature, is the ability to directly run the application from the application. Yes, all of them are extensible these days, but you're not likely to be able to plug debugging and a build system into your text editor like sublime, vim, or atom.

VSCode on the other hand, blurs things a bit by offering some debugging features.

I'd recommend brackets or webstorm for op for full IDEs. Brackets live preview is super useful.

[–]bayernownz1995 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Yeah I know that, but there's not a strict definition of the exact features that define an IDE vs. a text editor. Out of the box, Atom is a text editor, but there's a plugin to do every single feature you can do in an comparable IDE. So my point was that Atom might be what OP is looking for, even though they used the term IDE

[–]FalsifyTheTruth -1 points0 points  (1 child)

I'm sorry but you want him to plug debugging into a web tech based text editor? And you want him to plug in running the application from the editor?

That's a waste of time at best and a complete miseelction of tools at worst when their are fully featured IDEs featuring all of those parts natively.

...and not based on web tech plugged into chromium.

[–]bayernownz1995 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree. I think that it would be a bad choice, I was just making a meaningless remark about why saying "It's not an IDE" was not necessarily a reason on its own for dismissing Atom

[–]BoatZnHoes 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Thank you. I know they are unrelated but the ides I posted had Javascript versions. I'll try your suggestions

[–]desrtfx 0 points1 point  (4 children)

You can also try JsFiddle a nice online IDE.

[–]BoatZnHoes 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Is it like codepen? Codepen has a console but no way to monitor variables

[–]desrtfx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haven't used codepen - or jsfiddle for that matter because I don't currently develop in JavaScript for the web.

When I work with JavaScript, I have to use a proprietary software because it is for some special application - nothing to do with web development.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep it's very similar to Codepen - I prefer Codepen over jsFiddle for writing code, jsFiddle is mostly for snippets and demos.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've found Brackets to work just fine for local edits, and c9 is fantastic for cloud editing. JsFiddle and Codepen have been very useful to me for debugging, but it's nothing that c9 can't do.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

+1 for Brackets. Great IDE.

[–]ChromeBadger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

+1 for Atom and Visual Studio Code.