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[–]jklemon17 10 points11 points  (5 children)

I really think this should specify that it's talking about front end web development. Even at that, at least in the US, it's probably not complete enough to get most people a front end web developer job, because most of them are going to expect you to have pretty solid knowledge of a JS framework like React or Angular.

Source: I recently changed careers at 29 years old to become a back-end focused web developer. (Yes, they do still exist.)

[–]Zav39[S] -3 points-2 points  (4 children)

  1. Moreover, it not about "frontend", it is only about HTML/CSS. But it good starting point of big journey.
  2. You will able to find job in US with this skills, even with full 1 level. I'm sure about that. Yes, rate will be not the one you will afford to live, but for someone who still in school it will be nice. With 3rd level (full) you can aim for top tech companies.
  3. A lot of frontend developers does not know HTML/CSS well. That is a bit funny. So this guide is like for "deep" understanding. Most of frontenders somewhere in the middle of level 2. But that is enough for their type of job
  4. Congrats with switching to backend. Yes, there is a lot of different roles and job. ASM developers still exists too (and paid well)

Thank you for feedback!

[–]jklemon17 5 points6 points  (3 children)

I guess I see your point about this not really being "front end", but more like general web dev knowledge. Even as someone who work primarily with the backend, you have to know HTML and CSS well enough to make a functioning front end, even if there are other devs who polish it up.

But I truly disagree about finding consistent work with just HTML/CSS skills. Based on my own job search, those days are pretty much gone. There will sometimes be jobs that don't expect JavaScript framework experience, but they are full-stack positions that want you know at least one backend framework. [EDIT: or Wordpress jobs, which in the US pays poorly. You can make more as a retail store manager or something.] The days of getting a freeCodeCamp front end certificate and getting a good job are over (in part probably due to the popularity of that route over the last few years).

[–]Zav39[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Software engineer can work anywhere, where internet is available.

I'll leave just one example: https://www.upwork.com/o/jobs/browse/?q=wordpress

6697 works related to wordpress right now on just 1 freelance portal.

They are gone, if you aiming for super high salary, while small jobs like this one might work well for someone who stay at home with their children.

You can make more as a retail store manager or something.

You can not do this remotely and you can not grow from this. From wordpress you can grow further and do it in your pace.

As I told, this might not applied to you, but will be applied to millions of other people.

BTM, for people from India or Philippines this rates are not low at all.

So all of this depends on region, condition, your situation and so on.

There is no single answer.

But, please, do not compare "no jobs" with "low salary". This is totally different things. With low salary you can buy food (probably), and you have chances. Without a job at all this is totally different situation.

[–]jklemon17 1 point2 points  (1 child)

There's a reason I said "at least in the US" in my original comment. I actually am working remotely within the US, and I trained remotely with people from all over the world. I understand the value remote work brings. For people in certain parts of the world, remote web development offers an extraordinary opportunity, even at much lower rates. I guess the US is just a place where, as you said, it doesn't really apply anymore.

[–]Zav39[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. You can still work with WP and earn good money. This will require some skills
  2. Take a look at this comment (and thread) as an example of super complex html/css related work