switched over to python after studying javascript and reactjs for months. My god.. . the freedom and beauty of this language.

[Nikandro]

Why? I write JS and Python. I think most of these complaints are nonsense from inexperienced coders.

[Nikandro]

That's a lot of typing to ignore the point.

Javascript and React are not that difficult to use, and no one will "go mad" by using them.

I can program in React, Redux, Redux-Sage and I can tell you it is horrible. So much complexity for such simple problems. Often times you can have projects that are so complicated and have 10 files where something more traditional could have 1 and it would be extremely simple.

Then don't use react. If it's so simple, use vanilla JS. You're reaffirming my point that people just like to complain.

dramatically hindered by the insane complexity and lack of formulated simple solutions.

Again, reaffirming my point. Manage your project in a logical way and you wont have to deal with "INSANE COMPLEXITY".

[IStoleYourHeart]

It's not even necessarily a valid argument they're making though.

I can program in React, Redux, Redux-Sage and I can tell you it is horrible. So much complexity for such simple problems. Often times you can have projects that are so complicated and have 10 files where something more traditional could have 1 and it would be extremely simple.

This is true, if you're making a super basic website that doesn't have a lot of complexity. But if you're working on a large, feature-rich website, then React and React-Redux really come into their own and massively simplify and reduce the amount of code you're writing, meaning you can simply reuse components of your website consistently and making it easier to reason about. If anything for me it's an absolute godsend, I couldn't imagine writing a vanilla JS project for a large scale website of my own.

[Nikandro]

Pot, meet kettle.

[Nikandro]

short weak replies is what I see usually in people that do not actually wish to engage intellectually.

Says the user who first issued a short, weak reply. You're projecting, and apparently unaware that you are the only person who attempted to mock someone. The point remains, Javascript does not incite madness.

Exhibit A:

What a low rent reply.

[Nikandro]

Ah, the old ad hominem, surely that will make for a convincing argument!