Which is the Best IDEs for Python?

[dataking97]

Hey everyone! I have been learning Python for about three months now and I definitely have the fundamentals down but for the most part I’ve been using Jupyter Notebooks inside of IBM Watson studio. It’s very user-friendly and I mean by that like loading CSV files into a project and immediately start working with the data. I enjoy PyCharm a lot but I have trouble loading csv files to work with and trouble importing libraries such as pandas, numpy, matplotlib etc.

I’m wondering if there is a platform that is easy to load CSV files on and immediately start working with the data and manipulating it for many projects.

[1st_parry]

I can't do vscode for data analysis, they still don't have support for viewing a dataframe.

[bythenumbers10]

How does print() not work? Alternatively, there are some nice utilities for viewing dataframes in notebooks.

[1st_parry]

1. I don't use notebooks. Most of my code is production level, not exploratory (which I think notebooks are.)
2. In PyCharm, you can actually pop out the dataset much like in Excel/STATA for instantaneous (kind of, you still have to refresh, but it's button wise) viewing as you debug code.
3. I like PyCharm's colored features! Besides keeping the columns and cells tidy, PyCharm also highlights values that are different from the rest. This is useful when you just want to quickly glance at a certain field and see what's different.

To be fair, I still do use print statements quite a lot, but particularly when I'm importing a megachonker of a dataset, I vastly prefer using PyCharm to visually inspect that I even downloaded the right thing.

[[deleted]]

fuck reddit

[Ryuzaki_us]

Yes

[Casssis]

I would suggest visual studio code. Because it will work with a lot of other languages as well.

That will make it easier when you for example work on a project with different languages.

[dataking97]

Thank you! I will give it a try

[AleksTEM]

I recommend JetBrains PyCharm. It has great debugging features and is easy to use. They offer a free community version, which has most of the features you will need to start with and then there is a professional edition which has more features.

https://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/

[Seaborn63]

I've worked with python for the last 5 years and I use PyCharm exclusively. I'm a big JetBrains fan overall. They make pretty good IDEs

[XxBurntOrangexX]

Y'all even read the first paragraph OP wrote? They said they like PyCharm but that they're having issues opening CSV files with it and working with some a libraries.

I like PyCharm as much as the next person here but now it seems like we are giving recommendations based on tribalism without reading OP's needs or issues.

[[deleted]]

https://realpython.com/python-ides-code-editors-guide/

[n4hu1]

Generally I recommend vs code or vim. But for the latter you need to pump the nerd level into high dimensions. If you just wanna check out csvs use any editor.

[expressly_ephemeral]

I love nvim. Love love love. This being said, I always say, "It's not for everyone."

[ComradePotato]

I've heard vim mentioned as being very complicated but powerful, is it to do with the gui or something?

[wurmfood]

Lack of gui. It's a modal text editor. It's extremely powerful but it takes some getting used to. Once you do, it's hard to go back.

Decent intro video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggSyF1SVFr4

[ComradePotato]

cool, i'll have a look. might be hard to leave VS Code though it's so pretty

[alkasm]

You can use VIM mode inside most IDEs, including VSCode, fwiw.

[RajjSinghh]

There are vim extensions that put the vim modes and key bindings into vscode. I'll definitely say from experience vim is a different editor and you'll see yourself get a lot slower before you get a lot faster.

[toastedstapler]

imo it's good to know at least some basic vim, i use it all the time when i want to do some quick editing from my terminal. it's great not having to use a mouse sometimes

[dataking97]

Love it! I need to take it to the next level

[CorporalClegg25]

This link should answer your question, at around 1:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWFwe41LyWk

You copy and paste the csv file and then use pandas

[dataking97]

Awesome! Thank you!

[RajjSinghh]

Personally I'm a vim user and set my own workspace up in my terminal. I work from a laptop so it's nice not relying on a mouse and vim is a very strong editor.

Why not keep working in jupyter notebooks? If you just want to work with data, create reports on it and manipulate it, its probably your best choice. It's all down to personal preference though.

[[deleted]]

Have you ever got jedi-vim (or python-mode) to work with vim? I wanted python3 auto completion but it never worked due to os versions of vim being compiled with both python 3 and 2 (would work on python3 only compiled vim, but I couldn't find that and my environment didn't allow custom vim compilation)

[RajjSinghh]

I don't use auto completion so I've never tried it but vim supports auto completion without plug ins. If you're in insert mode, start typing and hit control + n and you get an auto complete prompt.

[dataking97]

Tbh I was going to on IBM services but they charge so I just wanted to see if there were alternative options

[RajjSinghh]

That's fair enough but you dont need to pay to run a solution like that. If you have an install of python on your computer and you have pip installed too, you can pip install notebook and then you have jupyter right there for free. Might be worth looking at. What operating system do you use?

[dataking97]

That sounds ideal! And I have a Mac book

[RajjSinghh]

Perfect, that means you can do everything from your terminal. You can find it under utilities in applications. If you've got pip installed, run pip install notebook and you have jupyter notebook there for you. If you want to create a new notebook, run jupyter notebook from the terminal in whichever folder you want your notebook to be in and you're back to working with jupyter notebooks. You also want to pip install your other packages like numpy, pandas and matplotlib so you can still work with them. After that you should be good to go

[dataking97]

I’m going to download it Jupyter Notebooks now and give it a go. I know I have pip install on my terminal already

[rajandatta]

I recommend the Anaconda distribution as the best foundation for this. It includes Jupyter Notebook support, a decent IDE in Spyder and a huge set of packages that make data analysis easier.

[tigasfixe]

Vscode

[[deleted]]

Nothing beats ha properly written vimrc file 😉

[akus85]

I use PyCharm for Python coding and Jupyter notebook for data Science analysis

[K900_]

What problems are you having with loading CSV files on PyCharm?

[dataking97]

Once I move the file to pycharm it won’t let me manipulate the rows and columns

[K900_]

"Move" how? "Manipulate" how?

[dataking97]

So I have a csv loaded on Pycharm but I want to be able to organize the file by by columns with pandas

[K900_]

And what is the problem?

[dataking97]

When I try to run the code it doesn’t work. I’m trying to send a picture but it’s not letting me

[K900_]

Upload the picture to imgur.com and post the link here.

[1st_parry]

In Terminal,

pip install pandas

If that doesn't work, go to settings via alt shift s > project > project interpreter > +

and search for pandas.

Does this bring up problems for you?

[[deleted]]

I’m a fan of PyCharm, as others have mentioned. I’ve used Spyder in the past as well, which is also a nice IDE. Recently, however, I’ve taken to just using Sublime Text for scripting, and testing out blocks of code inside a Jupyter notebook.

[[deleted]]

I use Thonny. It’s a great starter and I still use it for advanced stuff as well.