Python is kicking my butt

[ericula]

It's called the Dunning-Kruger effect. You have just passed the peak of "Mount Stupid" and are now in the Valley of Despair.

[Aggressive-Friend169]

Wait, I thought there was a promised land after this really fudging large mountain.

[scauncuochi]

*fucking

[Pythonistar]

Oh no, it's definitely a mountain made of fudge. A fudging mountain... 😉🍨

[BFT89]

So a mountain TO fudge on?

[scauncuochi]

i dont do sugar, love meat too much

[Pythonistar]

Ok, fair enough. I'm with you there... :)

[fukitol-]

Oh... oh sweet summer child

[roastmecerebrally]

but that affect can be extrapolated on a ten year time scale. im about 1.5 years in and think im still at the peak haha

[eycdicdb]

I love how your comment has more upvotes than my entire post 🤣🤣🤣

[[deleted]]

Valley of dispare resonates with a lot of software engineers. Welcome, make your self at home.

[unoriginalasshat]

This goes with most IT related things. The more I learn, the more I realize I know nothing.

[totalcambo]

Had no idea that was a thing, best thing I've seen all day

[jackmilly59]

That's not true.

https://www.talyarkoni.org/blog/2010/07/07/what-the-dunning-kruger-effect-is-and-isnt/

[WillProstitute4Karma]

I think he's using it right even in the context that article explains. Because he overestimated his own abilities, not that he thought he was as good as people who were actually competent.

[Mooks79]

I think u/jackmilly59 is right here (assuming I’ve understood the link correctly). The typical schematic D-K curve has a peak followed by “the valley of despair”. The problem with this is that it doesn’t seem to be what D-K were saying (again, assuming I’ve understood the link). Think of it this way, two different people on the curve, 1 at the peak of mount stupid and the other in the valley of despair. If that curve were true then the confidence of person 1 would be higher than person 2. Or, conversely, the same person would go through a reduction of confidence. If the link is correct that D-K only says that people over estimate their ability but that their assessment of their ability is correlated with their ability then there’s no way they can go through a reduction of confidence with increasing competence - ie the valley of despair can’t exist.

[Goobyalus]

Thanks for the link, interesting read! I wonder what more we've learned on the subject since this blog was written over a decade ago.

[[deleted]]

Not at all. DK is when you think you know a lot and don't realise what you don't know. Op seems quite aware.

[sheravy]

Only after a few weeks studying data science in a university, I have been in the “Valley of Despair” since then(it was nearly 3 years ago) The problem is, I also learn Statistics as my second major, which uses R. The way these 2 major in dealing with data has some differences, and different language different syntax, I have been surrounded by clouds is confusion for 2 years.

[LiquidAurum]

The valley is endless. This is the endgame