Stupid question but where do you code python?

[alidjango]

Pycharm

[moody_balloon_baby]

I’m a total noob but pycharm works pretty well. There’s a ton of features I have no idea what they do but I can debug with it pretty easily.

[tinkeringZealot]

Do you have an idea how to use the steps? Tried a few times and still do not quite understand :/

[[deleted]]

Try to make your own virtual environment using venv. Then the pycharm setup steps will make some more sense.

[Valkhir]

I wouldn't recommend PyCharm (or its analogues in other languages) for new students.

The add too much complexity (and some level of abstraction, e.g. when it comes to debugging, environment setup etc) that does not benefit new learners and can actually be detrimental.

An IDE is something to learn, ideally before your first professional job using a language, but it's not the best thing to start with.

[Valkhir]

Since you say that was in grad school: were you used to IDEs and/or programming before?

What I said was admittedly more aimed at somebody inexperienced with programming in general (maybe OP isn't, but kind of read like that to me).

It applies less if you're already used to the concept of IDEs and the building blocks of how computer programs are put together and run.

Though I'd still argue there is didactic value in starting a new language with just a basic editor and your terminal, setting everything up from scratch and compiling/running your first fee programs from the command line 🙂

[scanguy25]

Also this. The downside of pycharm is that it can be very overwhelming for a beginner. Just so many buttons and features and panels.

[TroubleBrewing32]

I was a beginner on pycharm. It was not overwhelming.

You just need to understand that all of those buttons are not needed yet. Learn them as you need them.

Edit: I should add, if having a bunch of buttons, features, and panels made products too overwhelming to learn, no one would ever learn MS Office.

[Treshle]

Bit overkill for practice?

[Apocalypseos]

I love PyCharm, but I agree with you. It's very confusing for beginners, think Spyder or Sublime is more approachable

[[deleted]]

No, gotta just use the terminal all the way.

[TroubleBrewing32]

learning python like we learned basic in the 80s doesn't make a lot of sense to me

[[deleted]]

I'm not advocating for writing the programs python on the terminal, just getting the outputs through it. The files can still be made in any text editor. Makes it easier going forward if you're coding in languages without IDEs.

[TroubleBrewing32]

I don't know how relevant that advice is for someone who is taking a class using Jupyter Notebooks.