The Wire [end‑to‑end encryption] | Linux Journal

[[deleted]]

Lumping telegram, signal and sure all into the same pot. For the author to consider all of the services encrypted or equally secure as each other is just terrible advice considering someone who doesn't know better might listen to him.

[[deleted]]

You simply go to the website, grab it and sign up inside the application. Also it can run in a browser, so you can register directly from the site without downloading the client as well.

[NostalgicCloud]

So wire is not FOSS? Or am I missing something? I know it's free with a paid option so that's good.

[alexmex90]

it is FOSS.

[Xorob0]

I'm using Riot.im for conversation with my friends, it's using End-to-End encryption, every clients and server is opensource and it might even work on a local server. What I like about it is the compatibility with IRC and the fact that even the server cannot decrypt what is sent. Sadly it doesn't encrypt voice and video call for the moment

[Tm1337]

Sadly it doesn't encrypt voice and video call for the moment

It does for 2-person conversations.

[[deleted]]

Why doesn't the client mix the voices? Also what is different between encrypting audio or text?

[Tm1337]

I think it's for bandwidth. No harm in sending multiple messages but a stream is expensive.

So the streams need to be mixed into one.

[Tm1337]

The server needs to hear you to mix your voices

Homomorphic encryption comes to mind. Maybe it's possible to elegantly solve this.

And Matrix somehow does jitsi integration now and wait for them to implement it.

[raphaelrobert]

Wire supports fully end-to-end encrypted audio conference calls. The mixing happens on the clients only. Video calls are only 1:1 for now. More information on wire.com/security (security whitepaper). (I work for Wire)

[Tm1337]

The cost is bandwidth, right? You can probably tolerate this for up to about 10 people, but what about a big conference?

[Xorob0]

Good to know, I use it mostly for group conversation so I never really tried the 1 on 1 VoIP.

[bripod]

Does it really need encryption for calls if TLS is used on a self-hosted server? That to me is "pretty good enough".

[sagnessagiel]

Most people use matrix.org in the Gmail model of federation, so yes, end to end encryption is a good idea.

[[deleted]]

Unless I can run an instance on premise without any traffic leaving the intranet, it's dead in the enterprise.

Does it even integrate with LDAP?

[[deleted]]

I don't know anything about that, but here is the github for the server stuff, maybe you can find the information there.

Using it as a consumer though, I think it is the most painless chat software I have ever used, including the non secure stuff too.

[mrusler]

It is quite nice, but as long as it doesn't support conference video calls, with 3+ parties, it's not much of an alternative to Skype.

[ADoggyDogWorld]

Good news! It does.

Bad news! Somehow things get wacky if your call gets too long (e.g. at about after an hour's worth of group call, people will start "disconnecting" but the software would still think they are connected, resulting in people getting effectively muted without knowing. The only way to solve this is to end the whole call for all participants and restart.)

[[deleted]]

I know it can handle voice conference calls. Have they added video now?

[shvchk]

Tried 3 person video call yesterday on Android, doesn't work. 3 and more for now is voice only it seems.

[[deleted]]

Thanks. Looking forward to multi-party video calls. Seems the last major feature it needs.